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# Re: desire in hermeticism

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- Subject: Re: desire in hermeticism
- From: "hermetics10" <hermetics10@...>
- Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 00:28:34 -0000
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    Frater Serpentis Satori,

    You can't mitigate suffering but I've always thought that to want to
    escape life because suffering exists and is possible is too much.
    I'm not really a fan of Buddhism.

    beginner

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Serpentis Satori
    <serpentsatori@y...> wrote:
    > LVX
    > Just in that you lack an ego to participate in "human drama"
    and "self-created suffering". You just handle it in a more detached
    way, but in fact you come in contact with great suffering and sorrow
    at that level, because it reminds you of the import of
    Compassion/The Great Work.
    > So you spend more time being selfless, and helping others who
    seek Liberation.
    > LVX
    > Frater Serpentis Satori
    >
    > hermetics10 <hermetics10@y...> wrote:
    >
    > Frater Serpentis Satori,
    >
    > I was just thinking that when you reached the level of perfection
    > then you would have control over how much suffering you would
    > encounter.
    >
    > Ardeshir
    >
    > --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Serpentis Satori
    > <serpentsatori@y...> wrote:
    > > LVX
    > > Well Alchemic Hermeticism (Rosey Cross School at least),
    > espouses something akin to the Buddhasitva Oath, that is often
    > called Making the World Gold, or The Great Elevation which will
    end
    > suffering, but as you say, through a radically different means.
    > > Evola wrote a book about Buddhism that is very good, and
    > Crowley's teacher Alan Benet founded the British Buddhist Society,
    > so this hybrid of both Buddhism & Hermeticism at least dates to
    the
    > Edwardian Age. Bardon seems very familiar with much of Tibetian
    > Theory, likely Evens-Wentz as well.
    > > LVX
    > > Frater Serpentis Satori
    > >
    > > hermetics10 <hermetics10@y...> wrote:
    > >
    > > Serpentis Satori,
    > >
    > > Thank you for your reply. I understood what you said. From my
    > > understanding Hermeticism doesn't espouse Buddhism's goal of non-
    > > existence and non-involvement which I ultimately see as also
    > serving
    > > the purpose of the cessationg of suffering though through a
    > > different outlook or goal.
    > >
    > > Thank you again for your reply.
    > >
    > > beginner
    > >
    > > --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Serpentis Satori
    > > <serpentsatori@y...> wrote:
    > > > LVX
    > > > Hermeticism is focused on purifying ourselves, so we may
    > rejoin
    > > our divinity while training our Will in many sub-sytems.
    Buddhism
    > is
    > > focused upon releasing us from the chains & imprisonment of
    > > Ignorance so we will cease incarnation. These goals only
    > > supperficially contradict each other.
    > > > Hermeticism often sees The Will, as the only other Absolute
    > > after The Creator/The Divine, and so it is spoken of in similar
    > > reverance. This is the Arete of Homer, The True Will of Crowley
    > (of
    > > similar thought by Bardon check the list archives!), and the
    > Purpose
    > > of Matrix:Reloaded. The entire Path of Hermeticism serves this
    > end,
    > > every Grade Initiation or Exercise strengthen that, from
    Banishing
    > > Circle to Bornless One & Beyond.
    > > > Buddhism is as Evens-Wynz put it " the ethical system for
    the
    > > science of yoga", and is not so much about Refusing Desire, as
    it
    > is
    > > about Release from Attachments, though Lust/Hunger is an
    > Attachment.
    > > This is the Path to Enlightenment, the gradual freedom from
    > > attachment until one is Enlightened and no longer imprisoned by
    > > Ignorance.
    > > > These goals, though stated as different, can be
    > complimentary
    > > and eventually I believe their will come greater synthesis
    between
    > > the Great Systems of the East and West. But to do that
    Hermeticism
    > > must be founded on truth, with Will and Evolution as its
    pillars.
    > > The complementary Buddhism is often Zen or Dzogchan, both
    focusing
    > > upon the Inherent Purity of all, but giving techniques to
    remember
    > > our perfection, much like Hermeticism.
    > > > Feel free to post me privately if you need further
    > > clarification in this,
    > > > Frater Serpentis Satori
    > > >
    > > > hermetics10 <hermetics10@y...> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Buddhism views desire as a bad thing? What is Hermeticism's
    view
    > > on
    > > > desire? Does desire impede becoming pure which is a main goal
    of
    > > > Hermeticism?
    > > >
    > > > beginner
    > > >
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