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# Re: Silence

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Silence
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:46:04 -0700
- References: <10714423670.20031018145923@...> <033101c3958b$bafe0bf0$c330a8c0@aleksander>

    Dear Alex and Pasha,

    >> Lately I wanted to make an exception and to present to her my
    workings with TMO. I discussed my results of this work with her in
    pretty much detail... In consequence I've "lost it all" - I had to put
    much effort to come back to the same level... And as I felt it, this was
    caused by my subconsciousness, and not by any external forces ;-) <<

    This is most common with the new experiences and the new realizations.
    Before you try telling them to someone, they are pure, raw experience.
    However, the process of putting those experiences into words and
    stringing them in some sort of logical sense, takes them out of the
    realm of fluid experience and makes them rigid things. They lose their
    fluidity and are no longer raw experience. You've effectively put them
    in a little box and limited them. You've distanced yourself from that
    raw experience.

    The impact of this upon the subconscious is that it destroys the mystery
    of raw experience and turns it into a mundane 'thing' -- into something
    that happened, instead of something that is happening.

    It's normal to want to tell some one about a new and exciting experience
    you've had since sharing relieves the internal pressure of excitement.
    Ordinarily, this is harmless and goes far to increase the intimacy with
    the other person. But unless the other person has shared in the same
    experience and can truly relate to your excitement, it will always
    diminish the intensity of the raw experience for you.

    The only times when this is not true is when you're sharing your
    experience with some one undergoing the same experience or some one who
    is accustomed to that experience. Then, your sharing is returned and
    the other person shares their own impressions of their experience. This
    sort of interaction *adds to* the mystery of the raw experience as you
    each show the other new ramifications and new ways of seeing the same
    experience. This sort of sharing opens *your* limited experience to new
    horizons and empowers the sense of excitement which keeps the rawness of
    experience alive. It deconstructs the structure you create in the
    process of putting your raw experience into solid words.

    An example of this is the TMO Working Group. After each ritual, we
    share our experiences with each other and in so doing, our mutual
    experience grows rapidly. In this way, we take each other higher
    instead of lower, because we are opening each other to new horizons and
    new possibilities. But again, this only happens because we are all
    participating in the same experience.

    Another example of this are forums like this one in which we share our
    experiences with those who are also undergoing similar experiences or
    who are familiar with the experiences we're describing. The insights we
    receive from others open us to new possibilities within our own
    experience and this counteracts the negative effect that putting our
    experience into words has upon the experience itself.

    Describing *techniques* however, is entirely different and has no
    detrimental effect upon the personal experiences that have resulted from
    our use of those techniques. It's only when we describe the raw
    experience itself that we encounter this effect of diminishing the
    aliveness and the mystery of something sacred.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    18 Oct 2003
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

- References:
  - Silence
    - From: Pasha <lightwhite@...>
  - Re: Silence
    - From: "Aleksander Dumala" <alex@...>

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