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# Re: Re: Just a few thoughts...

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Just a few thoughts...
- From: Woce <woce8@...>
- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:46:02 +0200 (CEST)
- In-reply-to: <b72keh+qntv@eGroups.com>

    Thanks a lot for restablishing the truth about our real
    work on IIH. SUre the knowledge is different among the
    people, however the development state as a beginner looks
    like a fence that moves with one's evolution.

    Warm regards, Woce

    --- shadowdancers97420 <shadowdancers@...> a
    écrit :
    ---------------------------------
    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "chenxsi"
    <chenxsi@y...> wrote:
    > Heh...sometimes i just wonder how you people can
    experience all
    sorts
    > of wonderful things while doing the exercises...up till
    now i still
    > do not understand how one can perceive the essential
    meaning whilst
    > in the VOM.
    > Etc...
    > snip<
    One does not need any previous experience before IIH, it
    is made for
    the beginner on up. The next 2 books require you to have at
    least
    progressed through step 8 of IIH.
    About the V.O.M > it is an absolutely necessary
    preliminary, but at
    this point is not intended to give a deep mystical
    experience. VOM is
    a preliminary for almost all genuine mystical teachings,
    including
    yoga (other than Hatha), taoist meditations, even for
    Carlos
    Castaneda. The state can deepen into many others,
    including "intuitive knowledge", aspects of Akasha, the
    experience of
    the " void" as it is termed by various Buddhist/Indian
    sects, etc.
    One thing to realize is that there are many other kinds
    of "knowledge" than just thoughts, which you will find from

    experience as you progress. There were no others answers to
    your
    questions currently, so I thought I'd chime in. Please
    consider these
    statements the opinion of no-one, and judge them on their
    own merits.

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