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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Fasting (& vegetarism)
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 18:43:15 -0700
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    Dear Pierre,

    Thank you for your wonderful posts in this thread. :) I've enjoyed
    reading your words.

    >> (one eating the others for always, the purpose of this creation being
    completely obscure). <<

    :) It's really not that obscure. It's an aspect of the *cycle* of life
    which is one of infinite change, guided by infinite continuity. If all
    living things were *not* part of a food chain (it's not just us animals
    who consume each other) we would not be expressing and experiencing the
    *cycle* of life in the way that we are -- we would not be earthlings
    all. But we *are* earthlings, all of us, regardless of species. Here
    and now, this is how the *cycle* of life is manifest, as it should and
    must be. Eating each other is part of what keeps life going, ending and
    in balance. This is Consciousness constantly changing its *forms*.

    >> From the point of choice, I feel better being not eating meet
    (especially whan knowing how we treat animals ...).
    But what you are saying is also true, it has no effect in itself on
    my vibs. This choice bears no compensation in itself; it does not
    improve my fate or improve my Karma. <<

    What does bear compensation and does improve your karma is the fact that
    you *have* made a *conscious* choice! :)

    >> And also, there is apparently no karmic price for eating meet while
    there is seemingly for other behavior. This is because Eating meat is
    not against this world's law. <<

    Where the karmic price or debt enters into the equation is in how we
    collectively and personally treat our food. If we *unthinkingly* eat a
    hamburger made from the ground up flesh of a bull that's lived its short
    life standing in its own manure with 300 others, while being pumped full
    of antibiotics and growth hormones, and never shown any affection
    whatsoever by the human race, then we connect ourselves very personally
    with the karmic wrong done to that poor, innocent creature, even though
    it was not done by our own hands.

    In our modern world, we are accustomed to assuming this burden and don't
    even notice its accumulation, don't even recognize its existence for the
    most part. It's sort of like karmic white-noise to most of us --
    something in the back ground that's been there so long and so constantly
    that we're almost incapable of hearing it.

    But imagine for a moment, the volt of negative astra-mental energy that
    has accumulated over millennia of human disrespect for other animals.
    Multiply that bull's terror an unimaginable number of times . . .

    There is nothing that a single individual can do to completely absolve
    the human collective from this karmic debt. However, we can each chip
    away at it by addressing our personal connection and responsibility,
    just as we must with all of our actions.

    As you said, by thinking about what your food has experienced on its
    journey to your mouth and honoring, acknowledging and thanking it for
    *its* struggle, you compensate for your personal responsibility in that
    larger debt. If done properly, this will also counter-balance the
    negative energetic residue that fills the food itself.

    >> What if we apply the analogy law to our life ? what is the real
    purpose of our being here (apparently we are now at the very top of the
    alimentation laden). <<

    ;-) Silly human! ;-) ;-) ;-) I'd say that in the eyes of a virus,
    fungus, bacteria or mosquito, we humans are way, way down there on the
    food chain!

    >> Surely the cow diet has little effect on its final fate -same for
    human, <<

    I don't know if I'd really go that far. I think that our attitude in
    relation to what we eat *does* impact our "final fate". The cow,
    chewing her cud, doesn't have to worry about such things and therefore
    doesn't accrue karmic debt in regard to what she eats, in the way a
    human does. She is not abusing the grass she eats, she is merely eating
    it and probably thinking "Yummy!". :)

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    23 Aug 2003
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