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# Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification
- From: "sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@...>
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:26:51 -0000
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    Hi Andrej,

    I think I had the same problem as you. When I was starting the
    first excercise I had trouble understanding it because I thought how
    can I have any train of thought unless I'm actively involved in
    making the train of thought? I don't see how any thoughts can appear
    in your mind without your participation or you thinking them which
    is active participation. So at the same time I couldn't understand
    how I could just be a observer of my thoughts if I had to make up
    those thoughts and so had to be actively involved. My problem was
    understanding how I could be detached without totally stopping the
    train of thoughts.

    Ardeshir

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Andrej Klemensich
    <andrejklemensich@y...> wrote:
    >
    > Greetings,
    >
    > in the first step, in the mind exercise i have to observe the
    ideas, the mind, but i still dont know what exactly this *observe*
    means. Do i have to concentrate on this ideas? if not, i still must
    *see* them. And to see them, i need to concentrate, or not? Thanks
    for help.
    >
    > I wish you all good luck. Andrej
    >
    >
    >
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