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# Re: Re: Application of Hermetic skills (Healing)

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Application of Hermetic skills (Healing)
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:11:56 -0700
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    Dear Johan,

    >> I thank you for your kindness and great replies Rawn. You always
    make me think:) <<

    :) Oh good. The *only* reason I challenge anyone's statements here on
    BardonPraxis is in order to encourage thinking! :) Developing our
    powers of thinking, of discernment, analysis and introspection are
    absolutely essential to our progress along the Hermetic path of
    initiation. I cannot state the importance of this strongly enough!

    My challenges are not meant as judgmentalistic pronouncements and I
    always hope they are not taken that way. :) But at the same time, I do
    recognize that my phrasing *can* be mistaken exactly that way and that
    is a risk I take. I just wish that my tone of voice, rhythm of speech,
    facial, hand and body gestures and innate humor could also be crammed
    into these, ever so finite, typed words! ;-) I guess that only those
    who know me personally can "hear and see" all that by reading my words.

    >> Not many people would be able to see what the patients karma is. And
    not all disease is due to karma. So what right do I have to go around
    starting to guess about what is caused by karma, and what not. <<

    My point is that *everything* that happens in our lives is due to karma.
    Disease is karma shouting at us in the only voice we can hear in that
    moment. :) And it is the point at which it is most important that the
    karmic lesson is looked for and pursued, simply because it is Divine
    Providence handing us an opportunity on a silver platter, so to speak.

    I think perhaps you are defining "karma" as only the truly major things
    that arise in life or only those issues that stretch back through past
    incarnations. I think that is a very Western over-simplification (or
    rather, a mis-simplification) of what karma really is. Each action
    creates a consequence and karma, simply put, is our *responsibility* for
    the consequences of each of our actions, no matter how small. We can
    easily recognize the "negative karma" of our big goofs, but seldom do we
    recognize the cumulative karma of all the small goofs or that of all the
    positive, "right" actions we take.

    A common cold for example, provides an opportunity to learn a lesson
    about taking care of oneself, about getting the proper rest and about
    managing stress. And the reason this lesson is presented in the form of
    a cold is because of the accumulated "negative" karma of having ignored
    our self-care, our stress management, etc. Having a cold (ideally)
    *forces* the person to address these issues. Granted, we can obliterate
    the symptoms of a cold by taking a remedy or simply ignore it, but
    unless we learn and incorporate the karmic lesson of the cold, we will
    remain susceptible to catching yet another cold. :)

    >> I take it that you meant that Pranic Healing does not conform to
    Universal Legality? I do not agree. The healer cannot interfere with the
    patients karma. No amount of healing I do will cure a patient if his
    illness is due to his karma that has not been worked out. <<

    My point, specifically, is that manipulation of a patient's energy body
    alone, does not address the whole of the patient. When only the symptom
    of disease is affected, the patient misses an opportunity to learn the
    karmic lesson *through* the experience of those symptoms. In effect,
    the healer has robbed the patient of an opportunity to truly find
    curation and the final resolution of the karmic issue at hand. This
    means that the patient will have to learn the same karmic lesson by
    other means or by recurrence of the disease. The "Lords of Karma"
    demand that this process be repeated until the karmic lesson is learned.

    In other words, *any* therapeutic practice that focuses exclusively on
    just the elimination of symptoms and does not engage with resolving the
    karmic lesson, does not conform with Legality. Furthermore, according
    to the Law of Karma, the practice of such a modality incurs a
    responsibility on the part of the practitioner for the consequences
    inherent to postponing the natural fulfillment of the patient's karma.

    This does not mean that Pranic Healing itself does not conform with
    Legality -- it is only a technique and as a technique, its principles
    are obviously based upon an awareness of Universal Legality. Where the
    question of Legality arises is with its *practice*. Is the
    *practitioner* helping the patient address the karmic lesson inherent to
    disease, in addition to the Pranic treatment of their energy body? If
    so, then Legality is satisfied, but if not, then karmic responsibility
    is incurred.

    >> And as a healer one discusses these issues with a patient. I talk to
    the patient and try to determine the cause of the illness. It is
    discussed that if certain changes are not made then the illness might
    recur. I teach them about introspection and meditation etc. It is up to
    the patient to then change and learn. <<

    Well, there you go then! :) You are doing your best to conform with
    Karmic Legality.

    >> I must add that if I know what the problem is, and I know that the
    patient is unwilling to learn and change, then I would consider
    withholding treatment. I have recently had a case like that with family.
    <<

    The TMO-WG had a similar case, fairly early on in our work together. :)
    We learned from working with this person that we were wasting our time
    and their time. So now, unless a subject is willing to participate (to
    whatever degree they are capable) we won't consider working with them.

    >> What I meant was that if someone pays me to heal them, and I take the
    money, then I have to do the healing. If they do not have the money and
    they should ask for healing, then I have the choice to heal or not. It
    is important that the patient not be burdened financially. I have no
    problem to heal for free all the time. I put the same effort in every
    healing session I do. <<

    Thank you for clarifying that. :)

    >> My point is that if I do not ask money, then the bank will repossess
    my car, I could not buy fuel to go heal, and my son and I would die of
    hunger:) I did not seek support for my view, or care if anyone wants to
    pass judgment:) I just stated a point of view:) <<

    Good. :) I think it's wise to be in touch will the real, gut-level
    self-preservation issues of survival when it comes to charging other
    people for things. If only a few corporate executives and politicians
    had this baseline awareness, our world might be a more humane place.
    ;-)

    >> Worrying about incurring karmic debt in this case would be like
    worrying about incurring karmic debt every time one steps on an ant by
    accident:) <<

    ;-) I bet most ants would disagree with your perspective!

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    11 April 2004
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