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# Re: Re: pore breathing

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: pore breathing
- From: "Zach" <zach.888@...>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 10:02:31 +0100
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    Hello Rawn,

    Your questions have provoked an investigation on my part from which
    I have come to some conclusions which I will list for the sake of brevity
    and clarity.

    1) The energy I described in my previous email is more akin to the water
    element and the magnetic fluid and is not the vital energy. As I understand
    it
    the vital energy is not cool, but more firery.

    2) I am suspecting it is accumulating of its own accord because I have
    a one sided inbalance towards water and the magnetic fluid. I had to
    work very hard at the visualisation exercises, which shows fire was
    weak from the outset.whereas I found sound and smell very easy.

    3) I am able to accumulate the vital energy but whenever doing pore
    breathing the sensations previously described would present
    themselves and eclipse/be more noticable than the sensations from
    the vital energy.

    4) I get the sensations and accumulation of a watery/cool
    energy as peviously described whether I breathe fast, slow
    or normal, but the sensations are increased if I slow the
    breathing down. However, I take your point on breathing
    normally and will follow that.

    5) I'm not convinced the cool quicksilver energy is a natural
    result of breathing slowly, its a very substantial energy
    whatever its true name is. For instance, were I to pass it down
    my arm into another person they would I think definitely feel it.
    Its definitely not a purely subjective sensation but a substantial
    accumulation of energy of some sort.

    6) My conclusion for now is that I must still have an inbalance towards
    the water element.

    with all good wishes

    Zach

    > Dear Zach,
    >
    > Throughout IIH and KTQ, Bardon repeatedly said to NOT induce any
    > irregularities to the normal breathing rhythm and rate when performing
    > these exercises. The reason being that many of the physical effects you
    > described here can be achieved by merely slowing the breath to, as you
    > say, one or two cycles per minute, and have nothing to do with an
    > accumulation of the VE, or with pore breathing, per se. This makes it
    > very hard for the student to differentiate between the sensations
    > produced by a prolonged slowing of the breath, verses the natural
    > effects of pore-breathing an accumulation of the VE.
    >
    > My question to you is two-fold: a) can you achieve an accumulation of
    > the VE through pore breathing *without* altering your normal breathing
    > speed; and b) does this produce the same physical sensations?
    >
    > My best to you,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 01 Jul 2003
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