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# Re: The first excercise

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- Subject: Re: The first excercise
- From: "Photon" <shadowphoton@...>
- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 08:02:32 -0000
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    Not all thoughts are provoked by our will. Maybe a memory will
    arise unbidden, unasked for. Maybe a good one, maybe a bad one. Or
    you associate one thing with another, thoughts comeing forth, one
    after another. Most peoples entire days are filled with nothing but
    this, a circle of thoughts, one thought, shaping from one thing to
    another.

    Watch your mind, any sound, any idea, any music stuck in your
    head, even the thought, the idea "im watching my mind". Your a part
    of it all, but how much of that stuff did you Will into your mind?
    You have to relax your will and the grip/control you think you have
    of your mind. Try to dispell those things, all of them, and exist
    purely as one with the things around you, in the moment, or even one
    of them. Try just for a few moments, and youll see that you dont have
    has much of a grip/active role in your mind and thoughts as one would
    think. The song comes back, the imagery keeps going, the thoughts
    keep changing thier shape.

    One you can see how you have less control than you think, the
    first step to control is the first step itself, which is to watch
    these thoughts. Dont tell them to do anything, dont stop them if they
    become unpleasant or boring, because those things in itself will
    bring more thoughts. The mind responds to emotional stimuli, and vice-
    versa. In other words, you dont have to will anything because it will
    just happen, because already your thoughts have a 'will' of thier own
    until you get further in the exercizes and can begin to shape them
    and move them with your will.

    Hope this helps.
    LVX
    Frater ha-sufah

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "sineadoconnorfan"
    <sineadoconnorfan@y...> wrote:
    >
    > But if anyone can give me a specific clarification of my problem
    > with the first excercise I would appreciate it. My problem is that
    > I don't see how we can have a train of thought without being
    > actively involved in imagining it, so then I don't understand how
    we
    > can be detached from a train of thought when a train of thought
    > requires active participation in imagining it. Thanks for your
    help.
    >
    > Ardeshir

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