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# Re: Digest Number 361

#### Message 02144 of 3835

- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Digest Number 361
- From: "lux xul" <luxxul@...>
- Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:32:39 +0000
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`
Hello. Thank you for your post. However, I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. There is even the taste of competition within your post.`
`I would favor the hypothesis that "part of magical initiation" is to not be seduced into worshipping at the alter (metaphor) of competition.. it takes ones focus form the goal... and that depends upon what the desire is in relation to, rather than the idea of "competition" itself.`
`Consider the "balancing of the elements", even that is in a sense a competition between focuses (competition between neg/pos elemental balances? insecurities? etc... THe very act of seeking balance, one must refocus elsewhere... and that can mean a 'competing' focus of will (interruptions, etc.) .`
`I believe that the ideal competetive sense is not RAMMED into anyone. It is a common experience in anything that exists. WHat we do with it and how much we surrender to the negative OF the concept, is again, a competiton, AND of our own choosing based upon our own interpretation relative to our own priorities and self understanding..`
`but alas, is also a seduction into the glamour of a type of superiority based within the hiding of our own insecurity.`
`Perhaps the REAL "part of the magical intiation" is to not be threatened BY the concept and try top get rid of it, accept it as within its sphere, enjoy it where one may and never to lose sight that IT (the act or desire to compete) is not who or what we are, but something we either wish and choose to enjoy or not (and in an ethical and balanced, concientious and respectful manner.`
`THen the sting and the glamour may be removed from it and we can again set it upon its correct and balanced course as well as place in manifestation.`
`It has been said that "The mind cannot move AWAY from anything, only TOWARD something else."`

    Rest,
    :T:

>     From: mark towse <bigimpact2003@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Digest Number 361
>     Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT)

>     Hi guys,

> `Interestingly part of the magical initiation is a recognition that all forms of competition are worthless; a very hard part for many people to let go from given how competing is rammed into everyone from early age. It is based on the principal of balance, and that the only perfect result in any competition is for two oposing parties to draw / tie which renders the point of competing in the first place useless. If you beat someone, you are better in that instance than they, and there is no point in beating somebody not as strong in a certain competitive event than you - other than for self gratification, ego, killer instinct etc.`
> `Martial artists, particualrly those who actively compete, or even at the sparring level, have to try to hit your opponent - unless yoru colleagues are willing to just let you parry, which is still a form of competition thus like many things, at a certain level it just has to go!`

>     I had to give up Judo 6 months back, there was just no point any more!

>     The other Mark

>     Mark Rasmus <markrasmus@...> wrote:
>     Hi Zach,
>     I wish to take the next step in building a non harming
>     vibration in my field. Sparring generates too much
>     static in the field. Ideally one should be empty
>     during sparring but in this case it is easier to just
>     let the 28 year habit go. Everything has an end.
>     Blessings
>     Mark

>     > Dear Mark,
>     >
>     > I''m interested why are you giving up martial arts,
>     > do you find practising
>     > them clashes with your Bardon practice?
>     >
>     > best
>     >
>     > Zach

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