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# Re: Paenitere

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- Subject: Re: Paenitere
- From: "golden558dragon" <tim100lund@...>
- Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:21:34 -0000
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    Thank you for your insight, it is greatly appreciated. I have much
    thinking to do, and will hopefully end up making what is the right
    decision for me personaly.

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> wrote:
    > Dear 'golden558dragon',
    >
    > >> What about his views concerning a temporary abstinence from sex and
    > the one week of fasting. Would there be any advantages in starting your
    > magical practise in such a manor, seeing as it might destroy laevas and
    > train your will ??? <<
    >
    > In my "Commentary Upon IIH: Step One" I suggested the temporary
    > cessation of all caffeine, nicotine, cannabis, alcohol and of anything
    > else that alters the brain's chemistry, so that the mind is clear for
    > the mental exercises. The mind must be mastered when it is functioning
    > normally instead of when it is being influenced and therefore
    > functioning abnormally.
    >
    > Periodic fasting is always a good idea since, when done properly, it
    > purifies the body of toxins and brings the bodies digestive system back
    > into proper balance. But even better than periodic fasting is the
    > consistent eating of a healthy diet.
    >
    > In the absence of sexual addiction, a temporary abstinence from sex
    > will indeed increase your overall energy, leaving you with more energy
    > for concentration if that is otherwise a problem for you. [However, I
    > must point out that the only sexual alternative Blystone offers to
    > permanent abstinence is involvement in a monogamous, committed
    > (heterosexual) relationship. According to him, if you are not in such a
    > relationship then abstinence is your only option (he declares
    > casual sex and masturbation as unacceptable).]
    >
    > And of course, practicing *any* asceticism will strengthen your will.
    >
    > But so far as these practices themselves eliminating larvae, this is not
    > guaranteed. For example, if sexual addiction or food addiction or
    > substance addiction are issues you face, then a temporary cessation of
    > all things having to do with the object of your addiction *without
    > simultaneously and directly addressing the root addiction issues* will
    > often have the opposite affect of increasing the strength of attendant
    > larvae and draining *you* of energy. So if you do practice these
    > asceticisms he suggests then I recommend that you also be ready to deal
    > with all of the addiction issues that arise.
    >
    > >> On his yoga regime, what do you think would be the benefits of
    > following his regime to the letter and would there be any unforeseen
    > dangers in doing so ??? <<
    >
    > The benefits and dangers, *if you follow his instructions to the letter*
    > (which includes an exhaustive study of the Yogic literature in addition
    > to following his given instructions) would obviously be the benefits and
    > dangers espoused in the Yogic literature. :) However, I must point out
    > that Yoga is not *Hermetics* -- it is not *part of* the *Hermetic* path
    > of initiation. It can indeed make a good *addition to* but it is not a
    > *part of* it.
    >
    > >> Also would there be some advantages in waiting with some of his
    > lessons, and then using them as a compliment to some of the more
    > advances IIH lessons ??? <<
    >
    > Yes and I think his sensory exercise is a case in point. It could be
    > used effectively in conjunction with the work of being able to identify
    > the separate organs and regions of the body.
    >
    > >> Finally what about his comments on some of the books of the Bible and
    > his comments on the Tarot, something I personally found to be some of
    > the most interesting parts of the book. Do you agree with his ideas, and
    > if not then why ??? <<
    >
    > I glossed over most of this material since it didn't interest me.
    >
    > >> By the way, to a point I also agree with you about his writing style.
    > It is sometimes slow, a bit to melodramatic, and clearly painted by his
    > Gnostic beliefs, but at the same time I also think he wrote it like that
    > to convey a point (be careful not to accept everything, do not think the
    > occult sciences is a game, etc.). <<
    >
    > Yes, obviously it was done intentionally and after just a couple of
    > chapters the reader should have more than gotten his point that
    > initiation is serious business and that one should think for themselves.
    > :) But after a while it got tiresome and seemed to have to do with more
    > than just making a point.
    >
    > One final comment on "Paenitere". When I add up all the daily time
    > commitments and life changes that Blystone demands as absolute
    > requirements of the "neophyte", I see an erection of barriers instead of
    > the breaking down of them. It is clear to my mind that Bardon wrote IIH
    > in order to make Hermetic initiation *more* accessible to *more* people.
    > In many places in his books he emphasized the fact that initiation was
    > possible for the "ordinary man" who lives an ordinary life. It's not
    > reserved just for those who can spend at least six hours a day devoted
    > exclusively to exercises and the study of books. That's all wonderful
    > when it can be managed and can make for very quick progress, but it is
    > not *necessary*. And in this day and age it is not even *possible* for
    > the vast majority of those interested in pursuing their initiation. In
    > point of fact, the vast majority of the students that I know of are
    > making excellent progress devoting only a couple of hours each day, some
    > on even less! It *might* take "longer" if one devotes fewer hours per
    > day but this is *not* a race -- in fact, trying to race is very
    > counter-productive.
    >
    > In effect, Mr. Blystone sets out a path of initiation that *uses* IIH as
    > its foundation but which *diverges from* Bardon's course. It's sort of
    > a "Bardon Plus". ;-) Personally, I don't see that "Plus" as being in
    > the Bardonian spirit of making initiation *more* accessible. Instead,
    > it seems to take us back a century or two.
    >
    > But that is only *my* opinion as an admitted "Bardon purist". ;-) I
    > encourage you to do as Mr. Blystone repeatedly suggests and form your
    > *own* opinion. :) It is after all, *your* initiation and you get to do
    > whatever *you* want to do.
    >
    > My best to you as always,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 25 April 2004
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    > rawn@a...
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