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# Re: What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?

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- Subject: Re: What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?
- From: "Martin" <martin@...>
- Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 08:17:16 -0000
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    Dear Rawn,

    You wrote:

    >>In the end, your question is moot since by definition some one who
    would
    think that such actions and attitudes would be positive has not
    reached
    down within themselves very deeply at all. They have not reached down
    deeply enough to reveal their essential self.<<

    So that implies that there are in fact some qualities/traits which
    are universally considered to be "positive" or "negative" by the
    essential self. Now we know that personalities and temporally-
    dependent mental functions are very individual, but what about a
    person's essential self? The very name and concept suggests that it
    may be *one* entity (for want of a better word) which everyone
    shares. You have explained how concepts/thoughts from our higher
    selves often have to be filtered through the lower mental functions
    and the personality with all its emotional attachments, but I assume
    that if someone has "reached down deeply enough to reveal their
    essential self" then what they perceive as positive and negative
    would be the same as what any other person on the planet who has
    reached the same level would interpret as being positive or
    negative. If this is true, then what you wrote about the
    categorization of character traits as either positive or negative
    being something personal to the individual confuses me, because
    *anyone* tapping into their essential self would come to the same
    conclusion.

    Martin

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