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# Re: Emptiness of Mind

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: Emptiness of Mind
- From: "Pedro A. G. Chuidian Jr. <dv1pc@...>" <dv1pc@...>
- Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:41:33 -0000
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    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Geoffrey Sy <geoffrey_sy@y...>"
    Hi again Geoffrey,
    Yes Rawn is correct and I'd like to appologise for the confusion but
    I got confused as well because of your lines :
    ">Regarding the one pointedness after I return from emptiness, what
    I focus upon? should I focus upon the period I went into emptiness
    in the sense that the blank there will become meaningful thoughts?

    Again my appologies I will be more careful next time.
    More power to all.

    <geoffrey_sy@y...> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Now, I am confused. :) From what I understand from Bardon's book in
    > the Emptiness of Mind, is that I should resist with all my strength
    > from thoughts are coming in. I think there is a line where it is
    > stated somethign like that. Rawn, did I understand Bardon
    > correctly?
    >
    > But from Pedro's perspective is I have to let the thoughts just
    come
    > in. Although not attached to it. But seemingly Pedro attach a
    > special meaning to the thoughts coming in. as this line:
    >
    > > Your thoughts will become more "meaningful" as you progress in
    the
    > > study.
    >
    > From my perspective, maybe I am doing a similar thing with what
    Pedro
    > is saying but not entirely similar. Whenever a thought arises, I
    > just shift my focus out of it by not thinking of it - "not attached
    > to it". And later on the thought just disappear because no
    thinking
    > process is being given to it. And of course, another thought will
    > come in, and I just do it again. Shifting my focus out. But by
    doing
    > this, I don't care about the thoughts coming in. So I don't think
    > even meaningful thoughts will come in. Because I shift out of the
    > thoughts everytime.
    >
    > And just a question too, is there a maximum length to be devoted to
    > the Emptiness of Mind exercise everyday (like 30 minutes?)?
    >
    > Paul, how do you practise it in the office?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Geoffrey
    >
    > --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Pedro A. G. Chuidian Jr.
    > <dv1pc@y...>" <dv1pc@y...> wrote:
    > > --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Geoffrey Sy
    > <geoffrey_sy@y...>"
    > >
    > > Hi Geoffrey,
    > >
    > > This is unsolicited , with all due respect to all, I'd just like
    to
    > > add a little something. Just let it happen. From what I have
    > learned,
    > > the idea of learning to "let go" of your thoughts is for us to
    > learn
    > > not to end up forcing concepts and ideas into the practice to be
    > able
    > > to get results. That was why he said "to be a silent observer".
    > This
    > > is a natural tendency of a person in the study - to be expecting
    > the
    > > results or effects of the practice. At this early stage, the
    > student
    > > is likely to simulate experiences where later on in the study it
    > > might be the cause of a stagnation. I fell into the trap before
    > when
    > > I was so eager to get results and be able to say something to my
    > > guide.
    > >
    > > Your thoughts will become more "meaningful" as you progress in
    the
    > > study.
    > >
    > > During this stage, just learn to focus and extend the duration of
    > > this focus. Breathing properly is of utmost importance.
    > >
    > > I hope I worded it properly that you got my point and that I was
    > able
    > > to help you in any way.
    > >
    > >
    > > <geoffrey_sy@y...> wrote:
    > > > Thanks Rawn,
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Regarding the one pointedness after I return from emptiness,
    what
    > I
    > > > focus upon? should I focus upon the period I went into
    emptiness
    > > in
    > > > the sense that the blank there will become meaningful
    thoughts?
    > > Did I get it right?
    > > >

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