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# Re: Re: Time

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Time
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:18:26 -0700
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    Dear Martin,

    >> When you write about 'un-learning the habits', I assume this
    ultimately boils down to the interference of the ego/egoic mind; the
    small self-made sense of self which the vast majority of humans
    (myself included!) continually associate with and place the whole of
    their identity into. <<

    Yes, but in addition to the "self-made" products of the subconscious
    psyche, there are also the ways of being that we are taught by the
    cultures in which we live.

    >> On a personal level, I feel I am becoming evermore conscious of the
    divide between my egoic self and 'my' higher consciousness. I sense this
    as a tremendous internal battle which I am currently finding difficult
    to resolve. I can almost tangibly feel my ego fighting and resisting any
    changed which I may try to implement. <<

    This is sign that you are actually starting to make internal change.
    Otherwise, you would not experience any resistance. However, I want to
    say that your "egoic self" is *not* an enemy. It doesn't act against
    you out of malice or spite, etc., but rather, it doesn't know any better
    and is responding instinctively. Once you have broken through the
    resistance, the idea is to reshape your "egoic self" into a friend and
    ally. Once it has been "tamed" through character transformation it will
    be one of your most powerful allies! :)

    One key to the art of taming the "egoic self" is to absolutely refuse to
    give in to the resistance you encounter. You *are* stronger than any
    resistance it can offer, it's just that your "egoic self" is very adept
    at convincing you otherwise. :)

    And finally, even though I've spoken of the "egoic self" in these terms,
    it's not something that is *separate* from *you*. It is a *part of*
    you.

    >> This does make sense to me, but isn't time a man-made concept? <<

    I think we need to distinguish between what time really is and the human
    perception of what time is. To say that *time* is a human construct
    misses the point and ignores the reality of physical existence.
    However, how time is generally perceived and experienced *is* a purely
    human construct.

    Instead of writing an expose` on the subject of time (I haven't the time
    ;-)) I suggest that you search my website for "time" and for "mechanisms
    of human perception".

    >> Do we not have the power to *choose* to step out of it when we wish?
    <<

    Well, we have the power to shift our awareness to a perspective that is
    not constricted by time or even by sequence.

    >> Now assuming this is true (which it may not be, it's just an idea), I
    can see that we could require *time* to undo our misperception, but
    wouldn't that be paradoxical assuming that time is illusory? Would it
    not be like a dog chasing its own tail? <<

    Time is *not* an illusion. How we perceive it could be called a
    delusion, but time itself is very real.

    >> How will the shift be made simultaneously? <<

    Since the medium is mind, time and space are not limiting factors. This
    shift would occur at the level of the human group-mind.

    >> What will instigate the shift? <<

    An overwhelming desire for a new way of being.

    >> Will number of people who have become individually enlightened
    automatically lead to a shift in global consciousness? <<

    Not automatically, no. It depends upon the percentage of the group-mind
    and upon which parts of the group mind are involved.

    >> what benefit does Peter derive from connecting to a future self? <<

    I suggest that you ask Peter. :)

    >> Oh! I can answer this bit!
    Eckhart Tolle's book is called 'The Power of Now' and is published
    by Hodder & Stoughton. The ISBN number is: 0 340 73350 0
    His website is: www.eckharttolle.com
    To listen to fairly long extracts from his audio material (or to
    download the full CDs), go to:
    http://www.audible.com and search for 'Eckhart Tolle', then click on
    the title and you will hve the option of listening to a sample. <<

    Thanks. :)

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    13 April 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
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