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# Re: does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?
- From: "thomas riedel" <vnimanje@...>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:09:57 -0600
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    dear rawn!

`thanks alot for your reply!
and for encouraging me to have look at step two. i may still take some month to reach 10 minutes EOM.`

    yours viraj

>     From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
>     Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?
>     Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:25:45 -0700

>     Dear Viraj,

>     >> i have a question concerning the use of ayahuasca: can those plants
>     help to heal and prepare the different bodys for expansion, are they
>     beneficial even in long term? or is the effect just limited to the time
>     of use and there is no substitute for practice and work? or is the use
>     of natural psycedelics
>     (the shaman way) even contradictory to bardon praxis? <<

>     There's a LOT more to the Shamanic path than just taking a few
>     hallucinogens! ;-) There's no less "practice and work" to the Shamanic
>     path than there is in the Hermetic path. In the right context, the use
>     of psychedelics can indeed have long-term healing effects, but in the
>     wrong context the exact opposite can easily result and there can occur a
>     magnification of dis-ease. If you're truly interested in exploring that
>     avenue, then I suggest you hook up with a *real* Shaman and ask for some
>     guidance.

>     Shamanism and Bardonism are not incompatible, however, they both require
>     a distinctly different sort of training.

>     >> i am still struggeling with step one, means trying to keep vigilant
>     in meditation and aware in daily life. and i have the feeling that i
>     need some support to get out of my fixed patterns of life, to heal some
>     issues in the body wich keep me dull and weak. <<

>     First off, stop *struggling*. ;-) Seriously, let go of that mind-set
>     of 'struggle'. Instead, relax into it. Otherwise, it will become a
>     burden very quickly and you'll get discouraged, which is no fun.

>     Secondly, I'd suggest some other healing modality than taking
>     psychedelics. If you're into Shamanic traditions, I'd suggest seeking
>     out a Sweat Lodge Ceremony with a *real* Med'cine Person. Otherwise,
>     something along the lines of Ayruveda, Chinese Medicine, etc., . . .
>     something that addresses the *whole* person.

>     And thirdly, the major portion of the work of character transformation
>     begins with Step Two. With Step One, you're just taking stock of the
>     inner territory, but in Step Two you really begin making changes to the
>     inner landscape. These are the techniques which will get you out of
>     those fixed patterns and help you to heal those internal issues which
>     are keeping you "dull and weak".

>     If you've already finished the construction of your positive and
>     negative Soul Mirrors, but are still working your way through the
>     meditation exercises, then I suggest that you look ahead to Step Two and
>     check into the techniques that Bardon described for use in the character
>     transformation. There would be no harm in your applying them to the
>     central issues that are making you feel the way you've described.

>     My best to you,
>     :) Rawn Clark
>     27 Jun 2003
>     rawnclark@...
>     rawn@...
>     http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
>     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
>     http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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