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- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] Re: Strange throbbing
- From: 4i81-adq1@...
- Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:26:12 -0700
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- In-reply-to: <b1hh76+bmrq@eGroups.com>

    Nice observation Basim. There is a very good explanation of this
    phenomenon in Itzhak Bentov?s Stalking the Wild Pendulum. See the
    appendix on the physio-kundalini syndrome. He notes this experience in
    activities that deal with the ?accelerating evolution of the nervous
    system? through either meditative disciplines or, even scarier,
    spontaneous occurrences. When your heart beats, blood is pushed out from
    the left ventricle, the aorta actually balloons out and creates a strong
    pulse that travels down to a point where there is a bifurcation in the
    lower abdomen (suspiciously close to the root chakra.) This is the place
    where the aorta forks into two to go to the legs. A part of this
    pressure rebounds back to the heart. If the heart beats again before
    this signal returns, you get the typical rhythmic, but irregular
    vibrations that are characteristic of our normal state. This rebound
    also sends vibrations up to the head and whacks the underside, a
    sensation which we?ve normally tuned out.

    Now a curious thing happens when you hold your breath. It sets up a
    condition where the heart will not beat again until the signal returns
    from the bifurcation point. This creates a very strong resonant sine
    wave of around 7Hz, which is an entrainment frequency of the brain right
    on the threshold of alpha and theta (as well as being the famous
    Schumann resonance, the vibrational frequency of our planet.) The
    amplitude of this resonance is about 3x more powerful than our regular
    state. Another interesting thing is, this resonance also occurs when the
    breath is very still and subtle, a place that most experience meditators
    are familiar with.

    Itzhak goes into more detail and a fascinating discussion of this
    model?s application in understand some of the mechanism of Kunalini and
    qi. I highly recommend his book for those curious about more detail.

    -emc

    That's happened to me before - usually right before I fall into a
    full trance state. It's a real, physical sensation, at least for me,
    and again for me it was kind of uncomfortable - I think that, as you
    get closer to trance, you become more aware of these things that you
    don't when you're in a normal, active "I'm watching TV/going to
    work/staying awake in class" state.

    As for what it actually is, well - when you're learning archery or
    how to shoot a gun, you're made aware that your entire body vibrates
    when your heart beats, so I've always held that it's just you
    becoming more aware of the echoes. There's probably other
    explanations, but there's mine. Hope this helps.

    - Basim

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Maximiliano Markous"
    <mmarkous@f...> wrote:
    > As I get more relaxed during the mental exercises ( specially if
    I´m lying down ) I start to perceive the rythm of my respiration and
    ( later ) of my heart more clearly. If I gert more relaxed I begin to
    experience a third beat. It´s like a throb but it doesn´t come from
    my heart...it´s like some pulsating energy mainly focused on my chest
    and abdomen. I don´t perceive all the time because I think is motre
    subtle than my respiration or heartbeat.
    > Has anybody experience this and know what it is? or I´m
    alucinating??
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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