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# What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?

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- Subject: What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?
- From: "Patrik" <patwe77@...>
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:37:13 -0000
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    Dear Rawn and all

    I have some confusion, not being clear about a certain subject
    concerning intro./character-building of step 1 / 2 of IIH.

    Although, as you say Rawn, the inner voice is most important for
    classifying what is negative or positive, there are still (as you
    have said too) some external results (concerning whether a step is
    mastered or not) ? and sometimes, someone may feel negative about
    certain traits and that feeling itself (as he may recognise later) is
    the problem and not the trait (or the other way round, too). So a
    kind of *general* approach could be helpful especially concerning
    larvae or schemes because Bardon himself points them as a (rather
    negative) general category to be mastered in order to get a noble
    character.

    (and, if it were true, that just the inner voice as it arise within
    every individual to be the *only* criterion for what is noble or not,
    then a criminal or so called black magician hurting others could be
    called very noble just provided they feel good about themselves).

    So, shortly asked, does developing a noble character in terms of
    Bardon
    rather mean mastering and balancing your soul or also or rather mean
    purifying / cleansing + transforming your soul concerning negative
    traits (or what the individual feels for themselves to be negative)?

    Lets say that *every* thought form, every feeling, may it be noble or
    not, could be generally named as *elemental* (definition by Daskalos)
    (elementals not meant as Nature Spirit here). So, larvae are
    elementals as well as any kind of positive thought form like a divine
    symbol, even a cabbalistic letter according to *thise* definition.

    Now, for example, take: The book "Pranic Psychic Self
    Defense" by
    Choa Kok Sui, (at least that German translation I have), there are
    some nice pictures of some kinds of elementals or larvae. For example
    an elemental of learning, very clear shining. An elemental of fear,
    like a dark heavy grey-black blue dusty cloud. A beautiful elemental
    of heart-love, like a subtle symmetric spiral form ? very lovely
    and soft. And also an elemental of sexual passion, more heavy, orange
    and dark red colored, less symmetric form and less lovely. Then,
    there are some non-colored pictures: A smoking larvae, living at the
    chest area of smokers. They look quite mean, like an intelligent
    little grey cloud, wanting the smoker to smoke again and again.
    (For Pranic healing people therefore, smoking out of pleasure would
    still be caused not by your higher will but by those larvae - *they*
    long for a kind of purity).

    Now, Bardon himself sometimes speaks of *control* (or *master*).
    Other times, he speaks of *cleansing* your soul, make it *pure* or
    *get rid of* (German: "beseitigen") passions. This is
    confusing a bit.

    *** So, what does *noble* mean, especially concerning passions? ***

    Those it just mean to *master* those (not so nice looking) larvae
    like sexual passions or smoking larvae in terms of *control* them by
    your will, so it is your will deciding *when* to smoke or having
    sexual pleasure and when not, as a kind of time-regulation how often?
    Or does it rather mean *transforming* those not so nice looking
    larvae or elementals into more beautiful looking ones, so one has
    then *beautiful-noble* sexual passion larvae instead of heavy dark
    one?
    Or does it mean for those having successfully mastered step 2, having
    (for example) removed or transformed more or less *all * larvae and
    now just to smoke or enjoy sex out of higher noble beautiful
    mental/astral elementals like lovely looking ones?

    And last question, how can I be sure, concerning sexuality, that need
    for sex is caused by *noble* elementals and not by eros-schemen? And
    are those eros-schemes (Eros-Schemen) (compared with larvae) just to
    be removed or to be transformed?
    How is it possible to recognise and differ those kinds of elementals,
    larvae or eros-schemes for beginners step 1 / 2 that are not
    clairvoyant?

    With best regards
    Patrik

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