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# Re: Digest Number 361

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: Digest Number 361
- From: "bigimpact2003" <bigimpact2003@...>
- Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:32:55 -0000
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    Hi,

    I understand your take on competition; but there is only one goal of
    competition to elevate somebody to the position of superior and one
    to inferior.

    The entire process creates disequilibrium and is unnecessary in a
    divine sense; anyone partiaking in any competition, unless iwth a
    desire to lose in the first palce si still hoping to create a
    disequilibrium in a situation which did not previously exist. Any
    magician who knowingly desires to create such a disequilibrium,
    especially with regards to his own "enjoyment" will find many
    obstacles in his way further down the path.

    Furthermore, even if your intention was perfect and he above
    statement untrue; you are unable to take in to account the negative
    emotions created within your opponent if you do win and are thus
    generating a negative breeding pool. Competition is human baggage
    unless specifically necessary pertaining to physical survival, and
    even then has to be seriously considered.

    Mark

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "lux xul" <luxxul@h...> wrote:
    >
    > Hello. Thank you for your post. However, I respectfully disagree
    with your
    > conclusion. There is even the taste of competition within your
    post.
    >
    > I would favor the hypothesis that "part of magical initiation" is
    to not be
    > seduced into worshipping at the alter (metaphor) of competition..
    it takes
    > ones focus form the goal... and that depends upon what the desire
    is in
    > relation to, rather than the idea of "competition" itself.
    >
    > Consider the "balancing of the elements", even that is in a sense
    a
    > competition between focuses (competition between neg/pos elemental
    balances?
    > insecurities? etc... THe very act of seeking balance, one must
    refocus
    > elsewhere... and that can mean a 'competing' focus of will
    (interruptions,
    > etc.) .
    >
    > I believe that the ideal competetive sense is not RAMMED into
    anyone. It is
    > a common experience in anything that exists. WHat we do with it
    and how much
    > we surrender to the negative OF the concept, is again, a
    competiton, AND of
    > our own choosing based upon our own interpretation relative to our
    own
    > priorities and self understanding..
    >
    > but alas, is also a seduction into the glamour of a type of
    superiority
    > based within the hiding of our own insecurity.
    >
    > Perhaps the REAL "part of the magical intiation" is to not be
    threatened BY
    > the concept and try top get rid of it, accept it as within its
    sphere, enjoy
    > it where one may and never to lose sight that IT (the act or
    desire to
    > compete) is not who or what we are, but something we either wish
    and choose
    > to enjoy or not (and in an ethical and balanced, concientious and
    respectful
    > manner.
    >
    > THen the sting and the glamour may be removed from it and we can
    again set
    > it upon its correct and balanced course as well as place in
    manifestation.
    >
    > It has been said that "The mind cannot move AWAY from anything,
    only TOWARD
    > something else."
    >
    > Rest,
    > :T:
    >
    > >From: mark towse <bigimpact2003@y...>
    > >Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    > >To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Digest Number 361
    > >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:44:46 +0000 (GMT)
    > >
    > >Hi guys,
    > >
    > >Interestingly part of the magical initiation is a recognition
    that all
    > >forms of competition are worthless; a very hard part for many
    people to let
    > >go from given how competing is rammed into everyone from early
    age. It is
    > >based on the principal of balance, and that the only perfect
    result in any
    > >competition is for two oposing parties to draw / tie which
    renders the
    > >point of competing in the first place useless. If you beat
    someone, you are
    > >better in that instance than they, and there is no point in
    beating
    > >somebody not as strong in a certain competitive event than you -
    other than
    > >for self gratification, ego, killer instinct etc.
    > >
    > >Martial artists, particualrly those who actively compete, or even
    at the
    > >sparring level, have to try to hit your opponent - unless yoru
    colleagues
    > >are willing to just let you parry, which is still a form of
    competition
    > >thus like many things, at a certain level it just has to go!
    > >
    > >I had to give up Judo 6 months back, there was just no point any
    more!
    > >
    > >The other Mark
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >Mark Rasmus <markrasmus@y...> wrote:
    > >Hi Zach,
    > >I wish to take the next step in building a non harming
    > >vibration in my field. Sparring generates too much
    > >static in the field. Ideally one should be empty
    > >during sparring but in this case it is easier to just
    > >let the 28 year habit go. Everything has an end.
    > >Blessings
    > >Mark
    > >
    > >
    > > > Dear Mark,
    > > >
    > > > I''m interested why are you giving up martial arts,
    > > > do you find practising
    > > > them clashes with your Bardon practice?
    > > >
    > > > best
    > > >
    > > > Zach
    > >
    > >
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