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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: A minor soul mirror question
- From: Jwingate2002@...
- Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:13:14 EST

    Hello Chuck, when I said

    >>"My only other comment on the whole process so far is that the
    mental helps with the astral. As in, once you get good at Thought
    Discipline you can meditate on the tetragrammaton itself and its
    significance, and then be constantly aware, ..."<<
    all I meant was, and unlike what a cursory read of IIH seemed to say to me
    at 1st anyhow, Thought Discipline (step 1 mental ex 2) is really about being
    able to think very clearly and deeply without deviating - but it still is
    thinking, a *chain* of thoughts, not stopping them. If you ever write well and
    really concentrate on what you actually mean it's just the same - but the paper
    is your mind, and instead of grabbing thoughts from a stream you watch the
    whole stream carefully, or that's how it's starting to seem to me, but I'm not
    expert yet I wouldn't say. So I use that to dig into the 4 elements and kind
    of watch them working in a general way. Why would someone say something so
    bizarre as that the universe comes down to them? This took me a while and I
    still haven't got it, but it's like there's a logic to them. They fit together
    and complement each other.

    So once you see that in principle you start to notice it in practice on alot
    of levels, or that's what I found. You can almost watch that overbalancing
    on a positive element going to the negative in terms of mood - in a
    conversation for example, too much enthusiasm giving way to irritation, too
    much
    sympathy and compassion turning into depression, too much lighthearted banter
    turning into mischief, too much weight and gravitas becoming locked into dogma,
    etc
    etc for example. So you feel a way you can walk forward without toppling and
    in doing so you are using the other side of that same exercise, the one
    where you stay aware all day. I mean, I give social examples but they don't
    have
    to be of course. You stay focussed on whatever it is and notice what your
    natural reaction is.

    Sorry to run on. Never ask *me* to 'elaborate', unless you really, like,
    *mean* it!

    You said:

    >>Think of it, nobody has
    any of the same situation in their early growing years. We may all
    have one parent, two parents, but we have a different family friend
    who always has an impact on us for instance.<<

    ... and I think you're spot on there. I think family is something magic
    doesn't usually touch on but it's really interesting and I do think about it
    alot. Not only all the usual stuff about early experiences (I do think some
    Freudian ideas have something to them now, which I never did before - who would
    have thought *magic* would do that??) but also, as bardon himself said, the
    Akasha in its 'coarsest form' lies in the blood and semen (or egg). There is a
    strong tie to me of fate in family, in everything to do with sex. It makes
    sense to me as a male, looking at how one behaves at puberty when all the stuff
    comes flooding in. One could say that's when certain karmic burdens start
    functioning, I'm just speculating here I don't know for sure.

    Anyway the thing is the Hermetic approach allows you to see it. I don't
    really think you need spend alot of time reliving the past deliberately, but
    you
    do kind of need to know if you're doing it subconsciously! Who was it who said
    that the things we fear most have already happened to us? Anyhow, praise to
    Bardon because his course is a thing of beauty. Sometimes when I first read
    it it seemed almost thrown together, but as it turns out it's really
    incredibly precisely engineered and that's why it delivers, so I'd say.

    Best wishes, Jason

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