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# Re: Remembering Aleister Crowley

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Remembering Aleister Crowley
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:25:59 -0700
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    Dear Joa,

    >> I think that today it´s inevitable for all the students of the occult
    to remember that exactly one hundred years ago (on 8th April 1904), a
    young man called Aleister Crowley began to receive a supposed revelation
    in El Cairo (Egypt) from Aiwass, his Holy Guardian Angel: The Book of
    the Law. <<

    While I don't mean to offend your own set of beliefs, you have greatly
    overstated when you use the words "inevitable" and "all" in this
    context. :)

    >> It seems that Bardon had a great respect for "The Great Beast"
    because there´s a passage in IIH that has clearly the crowleian
    influence: "Love is the Law, Love under Will". Bardon wrote this, but
    curiously he didn´t make any
    mention about Crowley. <<

    That phrase is not original to Crowley. But even if he was in fact
    quoting Crowley, there's no indication of exactly how Bardon felt about
    Crowley.

    >> I haven´t got very clear what is the "bardonist":) attitude on
    Crowley. Did Bardon believe in the authenticity of that "revelation"?
    What was really his opinion about Crowley and what was the real grade of
    influence of Crowley on
    Bardon in the creation of IIH? <<

    Bardon didn't say.

    >> Rawn, I have observed that you don´t make any mention on Crowley (for
    example in your "anotated bibliography" there is not any book of
    Crowley. To me, this is highly surprising because his influence on FB is
    evident, like I said before). Do you consider him a black magician? What
    is your personal opinion about him and his system of training? Can you
    clarify me these points? <<

    Personally, I find no value in Crowley's writings and I do not see any
    "evidence" of his influence upon Bardon's system.

    Hermetic initiation as Bardon presented it is not about following
    another person's revelation. Instead, it is about empowering the
    student's own abilities to attain their own personal "revelations".

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    08 April 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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