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# Fw: Introducing ... before questions

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- To: "BardonPraxis" <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
- Subject: Fw: Introducing ... before questions
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:19:28 -0700

    Dear Kiyan,

    Welcome to BardonPraxis. :) Sorry it took so long for me to get your
    intro onto the list but I was away this past weekend and didn't return
    until this afternoon.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    26 July 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Kiyan Smith" <fist_of_mars@...>
    To: "BardonPraxis Moderator" <BardonPraxis-owner@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:23 PM
    Subject: Introducing ... before questions

    Hello, my name is Kiyan, and I have recently developed
    a serious interest in the book "Initiation into
    Hermetics."

    When I was very young, I had an interest in
    witchcraft. My mother introduced me to many
    psychological methods based on est and NLP. These
    were helpful tools, but, of course, lacked a spiritual
    foundation. Like many occultists, I came across books
    by chance, almost as if they "fell into my lap."

    >From very basic witchcraft I shifted to an intense
    focus on Crowley. I was fascinated by his intellect
    and personality. I've read his autohagiography twice,
    and own many of his cornerstone works. Still, his
    system is very confusing, and while I use much of his
    writing (for instance the Book of Thoth for
    interpreting the paths) I find most of his writing
    requires too much cross-referencing. Also, I think
    his ego gets in the way too often. I still value his
    works, however.

    Recently I have been studying the Qabalah and working
    upon the tree. I plan to continue my quabalistic
    studies while I work upon Bardon's initiation
    methodology.

    I suppose I should mention that I sustain a personal
    magic system that is entirely unique, retained since
    early childhood. In fact it so unique that there is
    no purpose in saying anything else about it. I guess
    I want people out there to know it's ok to have their
    own magical creations.

    I am drawn to Bardon mostly because of a sense of his
    earnestness and purity of heart. I hope to fulfill
    initiation so I may "love under will" to the utmost of
    my power.

    Over the next few days I will have many questions and
    I hope to use this group to sort through these. If
    some may find these questions naive, then so be it. I
    still intend to ask these questions. I have searched
    the message archives but not found the answers. I
    know someone out there can help me.

    Well, I have said enough. Fist of Mars is my moniker
    because recently I have felt a need to draw upon the
    force of Geburah.

    Talk to you soon,

    Kiyan
    fist_of_mars@...

    BardonPraxis Moderator
    <BardonPraxis-owner@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    [Automated message]

    Hello,

    Thank you for joining the "Bardon Praxis" group! :)

    This is a moderated group specifically for those who
    are actively pursuing the work of Franz Bardon's
    "Initiation Into Hermetics", "The Practice of Magical
    Evocation" and/or "The Key to the True Quabbalah".
    Discussion will be limited to practical and
    theoretical issues *directly* related the pursuit of
    Bardon's system of initiation.

    Since this is a moderated group, I will examine all
    submissions for relevance before they are posted to
    the website and to the rest of the membership. My
    moderation of posts will adhere to two *absolute*
    rules: #1) All posts *must* be clearly relevant to the
    Bardon work. #2)Absolutely *no* rude or disrespectful
    posts will be allowed.

    This doesn't mean that I will limit Bardon-related
    discussion, nor that I will be micro-managing
    interpersonal relations amongst the membership. ;-) I
    simply wish to create a focused discussion group,
    within parameters that will guarantee focus instead of
    distraction.

    All members may post whatever they want to the
    "Files", Photos", Links", "Polls" and "Calendar"
    sections of the BardonPraxis homepage, so long as it
    pertains to the Bardon work. Links to these sections
    can be found at the left-hand side of the BardonPraxis
    homepage. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/

    If you feel so inclined, please reply to this email
    with a brief introduction of yourself and I will
    forward it to the entire list.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    Moderator, BardonPraxis

    BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/

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