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# Re: Will and willpower

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: Will and willpower
- From: "Luca Provenza <basim326@...>" <basim326@...>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:22:14 -0000
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    I've been there - I think it's fairly rare that anyone actually never
    misses an exercise when they're beginning. As for your question, I've
    never really differentiated between Will and will; my reasoning is
    that whether you're trying to exert control over the universe or just
    trying to stay awake long enough to reach your bed, it's still an act
    involving strength of will. It's just that magic is more impressive,
    that's all. I've always interpreted "magical will" as "the intended
    effect," if that helps.

    And, lastly, whenever I fell off the wagon, I just forced myself to
    keep going. It's anticlimactically simple, but eventually, the
    exercises will become habit.

    This is, like usual, pretty inarticulate, but I hope it helps either
    way.

    - Basim

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Regulus Magus"
    <RegulusMagus@h...> wrote:
    > Is there a difference between magical Will and old-fashioned,
    > stick-to-your-diet willpower? In my experience the latter is
    closely related
    > to things such as motivation, self-talk and various behavioral
    techniques
    > (such as rewarding yourself for making progress). Or perhaps
    motivation,
    > self-talk, etc., are just crutches for a weak will? I am unclear
    what the
    > former kind of Will is however. Can anyone suggest some examples
    that would
    > distinguish the two?
    >
    > Also, I am having trouble using whatever willpower I have
    consistently. As I
    > round out my second month on the very first part of step 1 I find
    that I am
    > having trouble with my persistence (frankly the exercises are
    boring the
    > heck out of me). I fall off the practice wagon, I get back on, I
    fall off
    > again (well you get the picture). I suppose the simplest advice
    that might
    > be offered to someone such as myself is to get back on the wagon
    one more
    > time than I fall off. :-) Nevertheless, I mustn't be the only
    student in
    > history who has had trouble sticking to the practice routine. Does
    anyone
    > have any suggestions for this repentant sinner? ;-)
    >
    > Sincerely, /RM/
    >
    >
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