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# Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification

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- Subject: Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification
- From: "Photon" <shadowphoton@...>
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:33:55 -0000
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    Another way to put it would be dont be the catalyst or impulse of the
    thought, AND dont be the neutralizer of the thought. Your not trying
    to hold onto it, it doesnt matter if it comes or goes, how long it
    stays, or what it is about. Neither begin nor end it, but let it have
    its independant existence as you, the observer, have yours, because
    afterall you are not your thoughts, but merely put them on like a
    garment to explore knowledge with.

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    Frater ha-sufah

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...>
    wrote:
    > Dear Andrej,
    >
    > >> in the first step, in the mind exercise i have to observe the
    ideas,
    > the mind, but i still dont know what exactly this *observe* means.
    Do i
    > have to concentrate on this ideas? if not, i still must *see* them.
    And
    > to see them, i need to concentrate, or not? <<
    >
    > "Observe" means to watch. I compare it to sitting at a cafe and
    simply
    > watching and listening the other patrons at the cafe. You sort of
    > eavesdrop on the conversations happening around you but you don't
    > participate in them. With the first mental exercise, you do not
    > *participate* in whatever is happening within your mind and you do
    not
    > *react* to whatever happens (this is a form of participation). All
    you
    > do is attentively observe. :)
    >
    > My best to you,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 16 Dec 2004
    > rawnclark@n...
    > rawn@a...
    > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
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