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# Re: mind chatter : what plane ?

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- Subject: Re: mind chatter : what plane ?
- From: "forestofsymbols" <forestofsymbols@...>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:17:24 -0000
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    Peter,

    Please rest assured that I am not splitting hairs or
    playing "Devil's Advocate" nor is my mind made up, so to speak. I
    think this is an important point because it is fundamental, and may
    color our future development. It is especially important because in
    this field as much as any, the danger of self-delusion is high.

    The principle in most religions seems to be that we are currently
    in a fallen or deviant states. In Christianity/Judaism, this is
    illustrated by the Fall; in Buddhism, by being caught up in illusion.
    I believe it is beginning to realize this in ourselves that brings us
    to the Work to begin with. I remember very clearly the moment that I
    decided not only was the way things were horribly wrong, but that I
    would actually do something about it. When the Israelites first went
    to the Holy Land, it was full of enemies. When Jesus came with new
    wine, he found old wineskins.

    The "order of creation" tells me (I say tells me because I do not
    know enough to clearly say this is objective; it might very well be
    subjective to me) of the way out. In the Qabala, they speak of the
    tzim-tzum- before God could create, He first had to create a space
    for creation. In Genesis, darkness precedes the day. Many alchemists
    speak of nigredo, blackening, as the first step. The Hebrew alphabet
    begins not with a consonant, but an Aleph. Before a word can be
    spoken, there must be silence. With my experiences with Bardon, this
    begins with "observation of thought." I have thought of this for a
    long time, but only recently have I been able to understand it.
    Without the *full* realization of this first step, everything that
    comes after is poisoned, useless, delusional. There are many scribes
    amd Pharisees around, both within and without.

    Mental chatter, the monkey, the incessant chattering of the mind
    is no less than one of the enemies of Israel, an illusionist, an idol
    maker. Biblically speaking, idolatry is one of the most dangerous and
    guarded acts of sin. The second commandment prohibits not simply the
    worship of false idols, but the *making* of them. We all know that
    for most people, mental chatter is common. But so was idolatry among
    the Israelites.

    mj

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