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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Question about requirements for beginners
- From: "Andy Llewellyn" <andy.llewellyn@...>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:39:18 -0000
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- Reply-to: "Andy Llewellyn" <andy.llewellyn@...>

    Hi Patrik,

`I believe this is what is expected from an advanced Magician.....not from a beginner.`

    Regards,

`Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrik" <patwe77@...>
To: <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: [BardonPraxis] Question about requirements for beginners`

    Hi!

    I've studied a little William Misteles advises for beginners or
    those
    who wish to go the hermetic path of Bardon. Right from the beginning,
    mastering the first steps (before moving on to higher steps), there
    is to achieve gradually:

    1. The mental clarity of an advanced Zen master.
    2. The concentration and artistic imagination of Stephen Spielberg.
    3. The ability to understand personal problems from a universal
    perspective as one or two Ph.D.s in transpersonal psychology might
    impart.
    4. The level of vitality and chi possessed by a sixth don aikido
    sensei or
    a fourth generation tai chi master.
    5. The qualities of a successful individual in any profession
    (endurance, hard-work and love your work ..)

    This sounds quite challenging in a positive way.
    Well, although I've done practising martial arts and qi-gong for
    some
    time, I have to confess that I do not see a quick way manifesting a
    chi level of a qi-gong or kungfu master. Above all, even after some
    days of intensive training and improved vitality (even without
    comparing to others and just to myself), it does not seem as easy to
    * keep * and maintain a higher level of vitality without loosing it
    within struggling times of daily life.

    An important question here, arises: Are the hermetic standarts of
    requirements and concerning mastered progress rather internal or
    external, rather inward or outward?

    The other, even more challenging thing Mistele points out for Bardon
    beginners, is to somehow find (not the perfection of course) but
    having a deep commitment and identification with the highest light of
    Divine Providence and finding within the sources of the divine
    qualities like absolute faith/commitment (fire), all embracing love
    (water), sense of wonder for life and detachment from personal
    problems (air) and silence and hard-working endurance (earth) -
    to
    get free access to all those sources even in some way * before *
    beginning with the first Bardons exercises. ("I suggest, then, at the
    very beginning of practicing with Bardon that the student take stock
    of what his own individual sense of the sacred and of transcendence
    is." W.M.)

    And those, last requirements, really seem to me a quite difficult
    thing to fulfil right away, honestly!
    It's one thing to have high ideals and pursuing perfection, step
    by
    step. Another thing is to fully have access to those sources
    manifesting and living them in daily life right away.

    So, what do you think about Misteles requirements for Bardon
    beginners?

    Pat

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