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- Subject: mind all over the place...
- From: Nik Haverkamp <stanni76@...>
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 05:09:04 -0800 (PST)
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    Dear Rawn,

    I have been doing the physical training, cold showers,
    yoga, chi kung. Also I try to keep my mind focused
    while doing various activities (which can be quite
    challenging).
    I have to say that I also include other meditational
    trainings, like impregnated breathing or
    visualization. I do meditate about 2 a day, but do not
    always follow the same meditation routines. I am not
    sure if that could cause me problems in keeping a
    focused mind..?? I have started doing the Center of
    Stillness meditatin which I have found to be quite
    helpful. Could the problem be that I try to many
    different "techiques" at once?
    Thanks for all your help!

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    > There are 5 messages in this issue.
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    > Topics in this digest:
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    > 1. Re: First Tarot card mystery
    > From: "libbalie" <libbalie@...>
    > 2. Re: Digest Number 601
    > From: Nik Haverkamp <stanni76@...>
    > 3. Re: Digest Number 601
    > From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
    > 4. Re: Re: First Tarot card mystery
    > From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
    > 5. Re: eye and face bath
    > From: Hans-Jörg Seiler
    > <red-smoking@...>
    >
    >
    >
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    > Message: 1
    > Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:18:50 -0000
    > From: "libbalie" <libbalie@...>
    > Subject: Re: First Tarot card mystery
    >
    >
    > I'm not sure how relevent this is, but the symbolism
    > of the black and red powder (usually
    > pictured as pots) is an important aspect of the
    > alchemical process, representing the
    > refiened elements that are married in the chymical
    > wedding (producing the hemaphrodite,
    > or the great work), just thought it would be
    > interesting to note.
    > Kindest regards,
    > Tim
    >
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    > Message: 2
    > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 04:08:22 -0800 (PST)
    > From: Nik Haverkamp <stanni76@...>
    > Subject: Re: Digest Number 601
    >
    > I have been training the first step in IIH for the
    > past year (thought observation, single thought, no
    > thought) some days I do really well in the exercises
    > and other days my mind seems to go everywhere. Is
    > that
    > normal? Is there anything that I can do?
    > Thanks.
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    > > There are 8 messages in this issue.
    > >
    > > Topics in this digest:
    > >
    > > 1. clarification question from IIH Intro
    > > From: ArtOfHands@...
    > > 2. Re: clarification question from IIH Intro
    > > From: "Rawn Clark"
    > <rawnclark@...>
    > > 3. Working multiple Step 1 exercises
    > > simultaneously
    > > From: ArtOfHands@...
    > > 4. Re: Working multiple Step 1 exercises
    > > simultaneously
    > > From: "Rawn Clark"
    > <rawnclark@...>
    > > 5. Re: Working multiple Step 1 exercises
    > > simultaneously
    > > From: <dustovshio@...>
    > > 6. Re: Working multiple Step 1 exercises
    > > simultaneously
    > > From: "Rawn Clark"
    > <rawnclark@...>
    > > 7. First Tarot card mystery
    > > From: "phantompassenger"
    > > <phantompassenger@...>
    > > 8. Re: First Tarot card mystery
    > > From: "Rawn Clark"
    > <rawnclark@...>
    > >
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    > > Message: 1
    > > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:56:14 -0000
    > > From: ArtOfHands@...
    > > Subject: clarification question from IIH Intro
    > >
    > >
    > > Hello!
    > >
    > > I have restarted my study of FB. In reading the
    > > introduction I was
    > > confused by the description of the symptoms of a
    > > lack or excess of the
    > > elements. These are discussed on pages 35 and 36
    > of
    > > the most recent
    > > edition of IIH.
    > >
    > > I thought I was understanding what I read, but I
    > > must not have. On
    > > page 35 I understood that an excess of Air element
    > > (compared to
    > > others) cause one to feel hungry, and then on page
    > > 36 it seems to be
    > > saying that an excess of Air element causes hunger
    > > to be curbed.
    > >
    > > Obviously I'm not understanding the information
    > > correctly. Please, if
    > > you can see the flaw in my understanding, help me
    > > clear it up.
    > >
    > > Thank you very much!
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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    > > Message: 2
    > > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 15:45:31 -0800
    > > From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
    > > Subject: Re: clarification question from IIH Intro
    > >
    > > Dear 'ArtOfHands',
    > >
    > > Welcome to BardonPraxis. :)
    > >
    > > >> I thought I was understanding what I read, but
    > I
    > > must not have. On
    > > page 35 I understood that an excess of Air element
    > > (compared to others)
    > > cause one to feel hungry, and then on page 36 it
    > > seems to be saying that
    > > an excess of Air element causes hunger to be
    > curbed.
    > > Obviously I'm not
    > > understanding the information correctly. Please,
    > if
    > > you can see the
    > > flaw in my understanding, help me clear it up. <<
    > >
    > > It is a bit confusing in the way it's stated,
    > > especially the part on
    > > p.35. If you re-read the p.35 section very
    > > carefully, you will find
    > > that Bardon was talking about the relative *lack*
    > of
    > > each Element in the
    > > diet. I say "relative lack" because these
    > symptoms
    > > may be caused by an
    > > over-preponderance of the other Elements in the
    > > diet.
    > >
    > > My best to you,
    > > :) Rawn Clark
    > > 29 Nov 2004
    > > rawnclark@...
    > > rawn@...
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