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# Re: Re: (unknown)

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: (unknown)
- From: Jonathan Bell <bell_jonathan@...>
- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:15:50 +0100 (BST)
- In-reply-to: <b84na9+3j84@eGroups.com>

    Hmm, this sounds like something I used to experience after doing chi kung,
    especially at night. I never persued it any further though...
    amater_8 <izbezumljene_ovce@...> wrote:
    I did tried to manipulate it before but it seemed pretty self
    willing. Its moves are gentle but yet fast and all it tends to do is
    to disappear to the right (another thing I noticed, its always moving
    towards right and I don't think it has anything to do with air
    currents in the room). This smoke-seeing condition appears only after
    long time spent in VOM and its easy to snap out of it, just like its
    easy to break the body relaxation. During that time my eyeballs have
    light feeling, like I'm using a different, more ethereal pair of
    eyes. (many of those details I couldn't remember at the time I was
    writing the first post) So I was thinking maybe this is the result of
    my old wish to see the invisible (either 'astral' or some energy that
    takes practice before you can see it) which is beginning to manifest.
    And my first associations with this kind of smoke is deep calmness,
    silence of mind, cold and passive space etc.. and before you comment,
    I know 'silence of mind' and 'association' shouldn't be put in same
    sentence ;) That is just feel I got from this smoke and I doubt I
    can go deeper and find out more so far.

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