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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: questions . . .
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 10:24:44 -0700
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    Dear Peter,

    >> I ment, if I left my practicing of the steps of IIH and started
    working almost exclusivly upon the work of KTQ it is fairly obvious that
    I could only go so far. <<

    Yes. You could "learn the Letters" but not utter them Kabbalistically.
    In other words, when it came to working the First Key, you'd hit a brick
    wall. To utter the Letters Kabbalistically requires considerably more
    than just "learning the Letters".

    >> As such, I guess I'm going to have to be balancing my work between
    IIH and KTQ. <<

    I suggest that your greater emphasis be upon the IIH work.

    >> Then following that logic, then it would be rather difficult to
    master the letters with out mastering the fluids first. But from my
    own minimal experience with the letters, it would seem to the
    contrary. <<

    For "learning the Letters" this is not an issue, but when it comes to
    being able to utter them Kabbalistically, it does matter. Mastery of
    the Fluids is a prerequisite to Kabbalistic utterance. This is one
    reason why continuing your IIH work would be crucial to eventual success
    with KTQ.

    >> When I first experienced the direct perception of essential meaning,
    as I described previously, it was like I was seeing "infinity within a
    blade of grass, and eternity in every hour" to put it poetically. <<

    :) Is it any wonder to you now that Bardon spoke of the connection
    between magic and mysticism? Magic leads to a mystical outlook . . . it
    moves one to poetry because this is often the only way to even begin
    expressing the deeper reality.

    >> Yet once I returned to normal waking consciousness, it all faded away
    into something that I could only half remember. In subsequent attempts
    to achieve the direct perception of essential meaning I had problems
    attaining such a state of mind, though when I did it was only for
    fleeting moments through whcih I have eventually been starting to
    remember more and more of the perceptions of essential meaning. <<

    Good. This speaks of the proper progress. :) It's like a newly
    forming stream. When the water runs this way for the very first time
    it's an extraordinary thing and the soil rejoices. At first the water
    runs free but blockages build up in the course and the water begins to
    pool until it builds up enough pressure to break through again. Over
    time, what began as a small course of water, builds into a stream. The
    stream digs into the soil, creating a sure and free course.

    With repeated practice, you clear the channels between that aspect of
    your consciousness which continuously perceives essential meaning and
    those parts of your consciousness that continuously interpret essential
    meaning. This softens the normal rigidity of that interpretation and
    with time, the interpretive aspects of consciousness become able to
    include/comprehend more and more of the raw essential meaning

    >> That makes sense. Then I take it that the working with the Lights is
    something that can be used to help heal the internal organs in a fashion
    that is potentially safer than trying to do so with the Elements? <<

    Whether or not it was "safer" would depend upon your facility with the
    Elements. Once mastered, the Elements are "safe".

    >> I guess this would be why Bardon calls the Fire Pole an exercise in
    the mysticism of Letters. <<

    :) Yes.

    >> Hence with this work I seem to be better understanding of the
    qualities of the Letters while I work with them, in addition to starting
    to spontaniously see how these qualities manifest throughout existence
    upon the mental, astral and material planes of existence. <<

    Exactly! :) It's again the same pattern of progression illustrated by
    the IIH work. One begins with learning how to recognize the Universal
    Qualities as they manifest within one's own self, then how they manifest
    externally. Then one turns to manipulating those Universal Qualities,
    quantitatively within the own self and then externally. This
    personalizes the Universal.

    >>>As I stated in my KTQ Commentary, there are limits to what I'm
    willing to discuss regarding KTQ, in public. <<<
    >> Having started to work through the Fire pole, I completely understand
    what you are talking about. <<

    Hallelujah! ;-) You are the first person to reply in this way to that
    statement! In every other case, I've received either a passive
    acceptance or a querulous rebellion, but never actual understanding.

    >> And I also completely understand why you say that it is rather rare
    that a person who has completed step five within IIH has very little
    need for guidence from external sources due to their connection with
    their greater guardian genious. <<

    Good.

    >> However, since I'm just starting the work of the passive
    communication with the great guardian genious and am working towards
    deeping my more intimate connection with it as well, I'm probably still
    going to be asking as many questions as I can in the meantime. <<

    ;-)

    >> I'll be putting forth experiences and theories that I need
    confirmation upon as to their credibility, though I'm pretty sure at one
    point or another I'm going to have to start trusting my gut on such
    matters. <<

    Yep!

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    05 Jul 2003
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
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