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# Re: VoM?

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] VoM?
- From: Jwingate2002@...
- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:19:53 EST

    I want to ask what may be a stupid question connected with this: is it
    absolutely unheard of for someone to find the Step 1 Mental exercises to sort
    of
    be in reverse order of difficulty? That is, to find VoM relatively easy but
    the witnessing of a normal flow of thought rather hard? I ask because I think I
    have experienced a version of what Martin is talking about here all my life,
    and can sort of turn it on and off at will. That whole thing of being blank
    and everything around me being conscious is very familiar to me.

    Maybe I'm missing something, and certainly I've never tried consciously to
    make that state last any particular length of time, but I wonder if it's
    possible to find this 3rd exercise easier than the other two? Does that make
    any
    sense to anybody?

    If I were to describe the way the blank state I'm thinking of feels to me,
    it would be - a long _pause_, with no thought, I can feel my body and
    everything around me but I don't pay it any attention or identify with anything
    in
    particular. And the thing of everything being conscious is like - you see
    something and it kind of becomes you, or is like you, or feels as if it could
    talk or has a soul or personality and is filled with what one might call
    itselfness?

    I've never experienced that big surge of energy though or anything like it,
    and I've never even thought there was anything special about that state!
    Although I did connect it with being an aware person and also generally a
    weirdo....

    If this is or has anything to do with 'VoM' I've been doing it since I was
    very young, but have often had more difficulty identifying with my *own*
    thoughts and feelings! Again, I know Bardon says that "everyone's development
    is
    very individual", but it seems to me this is almost ludicrously so, getting the
    3rd exercise right away but having trouble with the 1st forsooth! I might be
    missing something or not have got the real deal here, so if anyone could
    tell me.... thanks, Jason

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