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# Re: Re: Black Magic

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- To: <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Black Magic
- From: "adeptus" <joa_adeptus@...>
- Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:25:35 +0200
- References: <c6rpuu+sdnl@eGroups.com>

    Dear Daniel,

    "As I don't know what kind of threat that person gave you
    > (physical, "psychic/magical", etc - although in the case of a
    > supposed "psychic" attack, I think the best response is usually just
    > to ignore the threat, and not to get paranoid :) "

    Well, I didn´t say that I have suffered an attack. I was only exposing a
    dude. But I am in TOTAL disagreement with you
    when you say that the best response is "to ignore the threat and not to get
    paranoid". Well, I don´t believe that
    a person that has been threaten of death by a dangerous person (an assasin,
    for example) has "paranoia". He has REALLY
    a problem, and to ignore that can put in danger his own life. If you ignore
    a problem when you really have a problem, then you are doing the same thing
    that the ostrich: to hide your head under the ground.

    "Instead of harming him, I think it is much
    > preferred to neutralize his attack"

    Well, let´s suppose that a woman is mistreated by her husband every day,
    physically and psychically. She informs on the police her case, but the
    police is absolutely negligent with this case (this is something very
    frequent in many parts of the world, unfortunately, and many women die).
    Well, could you say me what method must employ this woman to "neutralize his
    attack"? Sincerely, I haven´t got very clear how this woman could defend
    herself and those close to her (for example, her children, who, in many
    occasions are victims of the domestic violence too). The examples that I
    could put to you are innumerable...

    "Instead of trying to become the karmatic force for the attacking
    > person by punishing him, trust that karma is universal, and he will
    > learn his lesson eventually"

    Yes, it is very possible that the husband of the woman of the preceding
    example, after killing her, eventually will learn that lesson, that karma is
    universal.

    Like you see, I desagree with you in many points, but in any case, thank you
    very much for you attention. ;)

    JOA

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Daniel Gutmanas" <noxerus@...>
    To: <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:52 PM
    Subject: [BardonPraxis] Re: Black Magic

    > Dear Joa,
    >
    > As I don't know what kind of threat that person gave you
    > (physical, "psychic/magical", etc - although in the case of a
    > supposed "psychic" attack, I think the best response is usually just
    > to ignore the threat, and not to get paranoid :) I can't give you a
    > specific answer regarding your case, but I do have a general comment
    > regarding karma and protection, at least from my point of view;
    > If I understand you correctly and by "black magic" you mean harming
    > the other person in magical ways, there is no need to use "black
    > magic" at any point. Instead of harming him, I think it is much
    > preferred to neutralize his attack (whether magically or somehow
    > else obviously depends on your case and your current abilities) -
    > this way, you'll defend yourself and those close to you, you will
    > not incur karmic damage, and you might even nudge the attacker
    > towards positive change too!
    > Instead of trying to become the karmatic force for the attacking
    > person by punishing him, trust that karma is universal, and he will
    > learn his lesson eventually. Instead of focusing on him, focus on
    > yourself: shield yourself (and those you wish to protect) from his
    > attacks, meditate about your feelings towards him, and strive do be
    > your best in this situation.
    > That's how I see such cases.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > Daniel Gutmanas
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    >
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