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# Re: What Is a Thought?

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: What Is a Thought?
- From: "bigimpact2003" <bigimpact2003@...>
- Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 08:55:21 -0000
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    Hi Tony,

    I've seen a few posts on the nature of thoughts and what constitutes
    mastery of step 1. The whole idea is not to say "that thought didn;t
    happen becasue I don't count it in #my# definition of the exercise",
    Bardon is very explicit - no thoughts maintained for 5 minutes.

    This means that even if something comes and is immediately dismissed,
    it is still a thought. With training, you are able to feel a
    precursor to a thought appearing as a feeling and automate blocks to
    prevent it from occurring. Mastery is obtained when there is no
    conscious awareness of any thought appearing for the full extent of
    the exercise.

    It is also useful to note that whereas 5 minutes is used as a
    benchmark, the idea is to be able to obtain this completely free
    state for an indefinite period; so if you struggle to keep 5 mins and
    say "phew, made it, mastered it!" then the "mastered it" wouldn't
    really be the case. Doing occasional one off tests like 10 mins or
    seeing how long it can be maintained will give you a geuine
    understanding of whether thought control has "really" been mastered.

    Having said that, if you can really make 5 mins (and have completed
    everything else in step 1)- you should go on to step 2, but be aware
    of the need to be able to maintain and increase empty states
    throuhgout future training.

    Regards,

    - Mark

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "allonby_anthony" <anthony@a...>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    > This is actually a practical question regarding Step 1, Mastery of
    > Thoughts. I can sit for 5 minutes and have 6-8 thoughts. Typically
    > these thoughts will be sentence like "be vigilant!" or "the trick
    is
    > not to follow the thought" i.e. comments or self-questions on my
    > progress. Lots of background noise pops up - voices, words, random
    > images, the occasional memory. I figure if I quash these and don't
    > pursue them, they don't count as a thought, so I don't count them
    on
    > my beads. So if an image of an eye (or anything) spontaneously pops
    > into my consciousness, and I dismiss it, I don't count it. In fact
    I
    > count only memories I pursue or sentences I let complete (and some
    of
    > them are pretty fast) as thoughts. Is this acceptable, or should I
    be
    > striving for complete blankness, with nothing emerging
    spontaneously?
    > Is this even possible?
    >
    > Thanks for any comment on this.
    >
    > Regards Tony W.

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  - What Is a Thought?
    - From: "allonby_anthony" <anthony@...>

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