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# Re: A nice, sweet, mental sleep.

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] A nice, sweet, mental sleep.
- From: A student <arbiter@...>
- Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:32:32 +0100
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    Dear Rawn

    >This is a common mis-conception of EOM and the one which makes achieving
    >EOM difficult for many folks. True EOM is a completely passive state
    >although it does require "some initial willing" to *attain*.

    This is important. I would have thought EOM and the state I described to be
    completely different things. It seems perhaps that they are different
    phases of the same thing.

    The keyword for the state I am trying to describe is actually
    "nonchalance". I set my timer to 10 minutes and go into a care-less state
    (in the best sense of the word). No cares, nothing can bother me, nothing
    is interesting enough to identify with.

    This leads to an other question. Which is more natural, in the sens of
    needig less energy: to be in the mindchatter or to be beyond it? I recall
    some study that said lying takes more energy than telling the truth. Could
    this "false" mind stuff perhaps be an *exertion*, its continuation more
    exhausting than letting it go? If you *really* relax, in a wisely lazy way,
    it will recede.

    Stu

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