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- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] Re: Another question...
- From: "William Behun" <adsinistram@...>
- Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 08:51:18 -0500
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- In-reply-to: <chgt7i+gof2@eGroups.com>

    Dear antiloop:

    I made the comparison between the principle of beauty and the elemental
    forces only to illustrate that both are quantitative (i.e. spiritual) and
    not quantitative (i.e. material) principles.

    I would disagree in the strongest possible terms that elemental force is
    quantitative as you claim: you wrote, "so if you accumulate one of them
    from "somewhere", you'd think that "somewhere" would experience a depleation
    of that single element." Clearly I wouldn't think that, as these elemental
    forces are not material things, but prior to manifestation. To quantify
    these forces is to reduce them to a result of manifestation, which is an
    inverse of the actual relationship. Matter depends on the elemental force,
    not the other way around. Quantity applies only to manifestation (things
    like matter and energy) and elemental force is clearly prior to
    manifestation, as is an metaphysical principle: as such it is not
    quantitative, and cannot be depleted.

    There is no finite quantity of elemental force, just as there is no finite
    quantity of anything that precedes or transcends the world of manifestation.
    There is a strong tendency among modern esotericists to try to apply
    scientific principles to esoterism. It should be understood that this goes
    only so far: while scientific rigour and discipline are certainly an
    advantage in esoteric work, one should remember that while science is our
    tool for understanding the manifested universe, we are often dealing with
    forces that form the *basis* of manifestation, and as such are not
    susceptible to scientific understanding in the same way.

    Regards:

    William

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