[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next]
[Main Index][Thread Index]

# RE: YHVH-Tetragrammaton

#### Message 02324 of 3835

- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] YHVH-Tetragrammaton
- From: "Stephen Miller" <qwertyguy3@...>
- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:31:32 -0500
- Bcc:

`I'm by no means an expert Kabbalist, but I find the progression of Fire, Water, Air to be the more logical choice for two reasons. First, Moryason says "Air 'surges' from the Akasha after the Fire (Akashic) and before the Water", when this does not follow from the analogy of air in the natural world. In order for air to flow, it must go from an area of high pressure to an area of low pressure. To say that the Air "surges" assumes that there was some contractive, accepting thing for the air to flow into. This is the very definition of what water is meant to represent. The second reason is that Fire calls for Water to exist as soon as the first is created, but Air is only needed when it is necessary to communicate or flow between the first two. Fire and Water are polar opposites, and one can not exist with out assuming the existence of the other. The concept of Air expresses a flow of something, and as mentioned before, there must be an expansive and a contractive force for this flow to occur.`

    Hope this helps,
    Stephen M.

>     From: "Jeudy, Olivier [AUDT]" <olivier.jeudy@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
>     Subject: [BardonPraxis] YHVH-Tetragrammaton
>     Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:46:29 +0900

>     Dear All,

> `I have a problem with the individual letter-to-element associations of the tetragrammaton in KTQ.
> Alexandre Moryason, publisher of Bardon's work in France, in its "Lumiere sur le Royaume" p. 119, adopts the same associations as Franz Bardon in its KTQ i.e: Y=Fire, H=Air, Vav=Water, and the final H=Earth. Rawn Clark, in its commentary upon the theory of KTQ explains that the association should instead read: Y=Fire, H=Water, V=Air, and the final H=Earth.`

>     How can these seemingly different correspondances be reconciled??

> `While I am nowhere near practicing KTQ, it is important for me to have at least a basic understanding of what the associations are. I have read Rawn's commentary upon KTQ's theory, as well as his marvellous commentary upon the Table of Hermes and understood his explanations as to why the sequence of formation should read: Fire-Water-Air-Earth instead of Fire-Air-Water-Earth.`
> `I have also read Moryason's comments, which I very loosely translated as follows:`
> `"3-The Air
> Only the Divine Breath, the balancing influence between the two opposite elements, Fire and Water, allows for their interaction. Air "surges" from the Akasha after the Fire (Akashic) and before the Water (if a sequence of events could even be conceived...). Consequently, the Air corresponds to the Second Letter of the Divine Name, He (and not Water) and Water corresponds to the Third Letter (Vaw).
> Air represents thus the Divine Breath and if it is inexistant, the union between Fire and Water becomes impossible: death occurs; and it is truly what can be observed with physical breathing when it ceases.
> Air constitues also the vehicle of freedom, agility, the generator of the "Movement", of Life...`
> `4 - Water
> (...)
> The link between Fire and Water seems so self-evident that along centuries, certain Kabbalists have attributed to Water the position immediately following that of Fire, and to which corresponds the Second Hebraic Letter of the name of God, "He". This is inaccurate.
> Although it is actually true that Fire calls for Water and that Water calls for Fire, these two elements cannot communicate to each other. Their discrepancy is such that a Mediator is necessary so that their interaction can work and produce everything that exists in the Universe, in any existing Plane. This Mediator is Air, the manifestation of the Divine Breath, existing within every thing."`
> `The above passage I obtained from someone who has Moryason's book. I do not have the book myself.`

>     Any insight welcome!

>     Fraternally,
>     Olivier

`
_________________________________________________________________
Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar ? FREE! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/`

- Follow-Ups:
  - Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
    - From: "Robert 3 EEE" <rapid3robert2000@...>
  - Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
    - From: "Peter Reist" <preist@...>

- Prev by Date: Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
- Next by Date: Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
- Previous by thread: Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
- Next by thread: Re: YHVH-Tetragrammaton
- Indexes:
  - Main
  - Thread

Main Index | Thread Index