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# Re: Fasting (& Vegetarism)

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- Subject: Re: Fasting (& Vegetarism)
- From: "antiloop1111" <jasoncorell@...>
- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:45:01 -0000
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    Hello Pierre,

    I read your article below and I wanted to mention that the effects
    you mentioned from fasting are not experienced universally by all
    those who fast. I believe this is so because of various factors.

    The first factor being how the fasting is done. Your
    statement: "fasting is definitely good for health", is like
    saying "diets are definitely good for health". Yes, they can be, but
    it depends on the diet and how long you do it for. And likewise,
    fasts can provide positive benefits, but depending on what is
    consumed during the fast and how often and how long you fast for. In
    the same way that the wrong diet can cause a person much suffering
    and health problems. Fasting that is done too severely (i.e.
    consuming almost nothing at all.. ie. only water for example), could
    be very harmful for you if you do it for too many days. So
    recommending a 5 day fast without explaining how it is to be done,
    could be easily misinterpreted by somebody who wants to try it for
    the first time.

    The second factor that comes into play are the human variables such
    as the person's health before they start the fast, their energy
    level, if they are relatively healthy and not ill when they start the
    fast. Weaker people (physically/health-wise) speaking, will not be
    able to last as long. And by physically I don't necessarily mean
    somebody who is more muscular will last longer. I mean somebody who
    has strong internal organs and is well balanced in general - somebody
    who contains a more balanced energy body.

    I consider myself to be a fairly healthy young person. I havent' as
    much as had a cold in almost 2 years now and I am physically active
    and I eat almost only healthy food. I once not too long ago, fasted
    for nearly 72 hours. Drinking only water with lemon and honey. I did
    this along with a few other people. Most of them seemed to make it
    through without too many problems. I found it very difficult at the
    end of the second day and the third day. By the third day I had slept
    12 hours because I was so weak and I barely had energy to do
    anything. After being awake for only 1 or 2 hours I just wanted to go
    back to bed and rest more. I could not even think very clearly as I
    was indeed so weak. I longed for the fast to be over, because it was
    affecting my ability to function.

    Interestingly enough, I was not hungry at all past the morning of the
    second day. I did find this part of the experience quite fascinating
    and for that alone I thought the experience was worthwhile doing. In
    my current present, when I am very hungry, instead of obeying my
    instinct and going to some fast food or less than healthy restaurant
    on the way home from work, I just smile to myself and think "You have
    survived 3 days eating almost nothing, surely you can wait 2 more
    hours to eat, and this will help you gain more will power if you do
    so".

    Part of the intent of my entering this fast was to feel lighter and
    to feel more connected to the Universe, as you nicely put... for
    spiritual reasons. I can tell you there was no such result at all.
    Instead I felt very weak and unable to take advantage of my
    feeling "lighter" for this purpose. I had less ability to concentrate
    on anything because I hungry during the first day and physically and
    mentally exhausted the days after.

    The other interesting experience from this fast is that after it was
    all finally over and I could eat normally again, I was very aware
    that there was no way I could just sit down and have a regular
    meal... even one most of us consider healthy. I was aware my stomach
    could not handle the shock of processing such complex foods
    immediately nor the regular quantities of food I normally eat, and
    that I had to get back to normal progressively and slowly. Therefore
    my first meal consisted of a very small portion of flavourless
    organic yoghurt and a few pieces of simple bread. Had I sat down for
    a big mac and large fries with coke, I am sure I would have been in
    the hospital in less than 30 minutes! ;-)

    I would still recommend people do a fast if they've never done one in
    their lives, but be careful on how drastic the fast is, and with that
    in mind, how long you strain your body for. If you start to feel VERY
    weak, then you know you can not extend this too much longer. What
    others are capable of is not necessarily a reflection of what you can
    do at the moment, so yes push your will to the limits, but don't
    sacrifice your health for this.

    Take good care,
    antiloop1111

    > Fasting is definitely good for health. In fact only the 1st-
    > beginning 2nd day are a bit difficult, the weakness just passed
    > after.
    >
    > And then, you feel good, you feel light. The connection to your
    > inner being is easier. If done as an attempt to connect to the
    Universe, to
    > feel the Cosmic Harmony within you; it is worth doing.
    >
    > Fasting 5 days is far enought (especailly at the start), even more
    up
    > to 9 days is no danger for a person in normal health.
    >
    > After it, you will feel energetic and joyfull.
    >
    > Fastenning has obvious effect on the Earth Element, and some
    > explanation given are precise and accurate.
    > Possibly, if you are able to master the element within you, you
    don't
    > need to fasten to feel this effect. But the Effect on the Earth
    > element is not the only one of fastenning. What is key is why you
    are
    > doing it. Fastenning in itself change the way you relate to the
    > Universe, it bears by itself a Spiritual Purpose. And This Purpose
    is
    > there while fastenning whether one belongs or not to a spiritual
    > path, believes or not.
    >
    > Therefore, if fastenning is done for a spiritual reason, the
    > dedication of these days cannot be remplaced and will help to
    connect
    > to Higher Realm. The Person's Ego will benefit from it and,
    > fastenning by itself helps to refine the element within the body.
    >
    > From a personal standpoint, fastenning for a few days some years
    ago
    > has had long term very beneficial effect on my life.
    >
    > After these days, I could not eat any meat. I have not since then.
    > A few months after, I start to eat Organnic Food. From this point,
    my
    > health starts slowly improving, and has continuously improved since
    > then. It is not only what you eat but, foremost your state of mind
    > while eating.
    >
    > Meditation and praying through once own understanding of the Divine
    > can be more beneficial than any ritual. At these time, I did not
    feel
    > concerned by Vegetarism, and I did not know it will help me. I
    never
    > through it was an option for me. It has proved to be a very
    valuable
    > one.
    >
    > Best wishes,
    >
    > Pierre Mikael

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