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# A non judaic hermeticism ?

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- Subject: A non judaic hermeticism ?
- From: "magesmail" <magesmail@...>
- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 11:04:02 -0000
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    Hello,
    As usual i have weird questions to ask .
    :-)

    IIH is nice and "secular" in the sense that one can practice it from
    beginning to end without "buying into" any religion. at leats till
    about step 5, i guess even a hard core materialist could follow the
    practices .
    Right until the end of step 10, the religious beliefs of the
    practitioner have little to do with the practices or the results therof.

    With PME, the scene shifts a bit . The magician within the circle ,
    dressed in a robe and holding a wand/sword is a part of the western
    "paradigm" of magic (please feel free to land heavily on me if iam
    wrong :-) ). I cannot imagine a Buddhist or a Hindu or an australian
    aborigine doing this. In fact the hindu rituals i have seen have the
    magician *sitting* outside a "mandala" type diagram (a yantra )which
    is not always circular .

    With KTQ the hebrew /judaic influence seems pretty heavy though the
    alphabet itself seems to be german.

    Now for the questions :
    Is it impossible to follow the "higher" (note the quotes)levels of
    hermeticism if you are not working within the western/judaic paradigm
    . I am surprised that the universality of iih seems to be diluted as
    we step into the realms of pme and ktq.

    Of course i personally would be happy enough to get to level 10 of iih
    within this lifetime!! :) But i am really curious .

    is it possible to reach level 10 of iih and then assimilate the
    teachings and knowledge of the pme and ktq by following anon judaic path.
    ok that was question 1.

    now for an even weirder question .(this is specifically for rawn . At
    first i thought i'd write off line but if it helps any others out
    there .... so ... here goes .... )

    The "Magic of ADNI YHVH" really "calls to " me. I would love to
    practice this except for the fact that i feel silly speaking Hebrew
    and invoking (sorry if that is the wrong word) the Tree of Life into
    my astral body (yeow i hope iam getting this right ) when the rest of
    my prayers and rituals are in sanskrit and directed to amore
    "oriental" mode of worship. As far as possible, i would likemy (non
    magical) prayers and worship and my IIH practices to be "congruent" .

    (Watch out this get weirder :) ) . are the specific hebrew word
    required to get the effects of the IHVH ADNI practice ? How would one
    go about doing the same thing within a different religious system? i
    suspect there is an underlying unity there that transcends the
    religious prism through which one looks at it.
    ok i'll stop for now.

    Regds,
    NKKA

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