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- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] mind frenzy
- From: "Simon Proteus" <SimonProteus@...>
- Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:25:19 -0800
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`I hate to disappoint, but I can't say you're stupid :-) Everything you said sounds fairly normal to me, having worked with many people who have addiction problems and having had my own struggles with addiction.`
`You are going to hear thousands of ways to deal with addiction. All of the differing schools will tell you why theirs is the only way and they are all wrong, but only because everyone needs slightly different cues to overcome addiction. I'll give you some of the ideas I've heard from others with food addictions and that I've used as a personal trainer to help clients overcomes food urges.`
`1. Once a week, for one part of the day (beginning, middle, end... I find that the end works best), plan on overindulging and really enjoy it. Savor the food. Have fun. Food isn't evil, just our attitudes toward it and our habits involving it.`
`2. Except for that one day per week eat very well. Tolerate absolutely no food in your house that does not help you to achieve your goals whether the goals are about discipline, body weight, muscle gain, cosmetics, or life-style.`
`3. Stay on top of your thinking. Stop thoughts like "I will not eat that" or "I shouldn't", instead concentrate on what you SHOULD do, even better what you WILL do, NOW. So, instead of "I shouldn't eat that deep-fried lard with tartar sauce and gravy" you might think "I'm eating this chicken with maranara sauce and steamed veggies". Keep it positive.`
`4. Exercise. Regular cardiovascular exercise reduces overall levels of hunger. If you increase your muscle mass you increase your metabolism. Find exercise that you enjoy: martial arts, hiking, walking, swimming, weight lifting, cardio classes, yoga, pilates. Walking and swimming are wonderful choices (and cheap), but should be done briskly. Remember this: move more eat less.`
`Please remember this is just one way to deal with it. In general expect that you will have a couple of struggles. Just stay on it.`

> `From a hermetic perspective, you will also get a variety of answers many of`

`which will be valid. Listen to that quiet voice you were talking about and feel for which ones ring true to you.`

    Wishing You the Best of Luck,
    Simon

>     From: <dustovshio@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: [BardonPraxis] mind frenzy
>     Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:20:39 -0800 (PST)

>     Hi, what is the preffered method to deal with
>     addictions? I have become addicted to food, and use
>     it for emotional support when challenges arise. This
>     has become a big problem, but it's going to help a lot
>     if folks start laughing at how ridiculous it is. My
>     main question: Does it help not to think about the
>     problem at all, or to make plans to derail it? Now
>     the thoughtform is big and omnious. I will use food
>     to avoid emotional confrontation, so any thought about
>     being afraid of a certain situation is a link to the
>     fear of food. See, Many things in my personal
>     inventory have gotten linked up like this, that is why
>     I feel trapped in a web. If anyone has experience
>     here is the best approach to
>     1. deal with one element at a time?
>     2. use auto suggestion to come to terms with the root
>     cause of the guilt. i.e. trouble homelife, or fear of
>     becoming a productive member of society, etc.?
>     3. emotionally finding a nurturing source to replace
>     the food comfort?
>     4. join a support group, or seek professional help ;-)
>     ?
>     5. face it head on by using meal planning etc.
>     6. fasting periodically

>     So far, numbers 5. and 6. seem to work, but when I'm
>     under pressure a slight distraction can cause an
>     explosion which leads to a long period of indulgence.
>     And it seems as though controlling or repressing it
>     actually makes it stronger (even if I don't happen to
>     be eating at the time) For example: before this was an
>     issue I decided to fast for a weak for the purpose of
>     beginning IIH. As I went with less food, and
>     experience spiritual food, I felt a guilty attraction
>     to going back to the old way. It always started out
>     as a sort of morbidness. For example, a few years ago
>     I read something that some frater wrote about how his
>     biggest challenge was overcoming simple sugur. I
>     thought "gee that could very well be me." Then after
>     I ate alot of food once, I can't remember why, I
>     thought to myself, "This could become an addiction."
>     The thought was very quiet and subtle, and I didn't
>     really take it seriously. Next, after the problem
>     was afoot, I thought , "wow, if this continues it
>     could really jeopordize my education" I knew the
>     thought was crazy at the time, and I negated it, but
>     there was a subconscious alliance, and my thoughts
>     became polarized to manifest this tunnel reality. Is
>     there a rational reason (for example, learning how to
>     be compassionate towards people with challenges) why I
>     would do this, or should it be considered a stupid
>     irrationality and not given any more importance? The
>     more I think about the problem, the stronger it
>     becomes, but I am not sure if there is some sort of
>     hidden lesson or karma in my past that I can profit
>     from now that I am motivated to resolve this. I
>     almost considered deleting this, but is has gone on so
>     long, I at least need someone to tell me I'm stupid.
>     (in a good-natured way )

>     Cheers,
>     Dustin

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