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# Interesting experience to share

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- Subject: Interesting experience to share
- From: "David Yeh" <ldreamr@...>
- Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 19:27:03 -0000
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    Hi, I just thought I'd share this experience I had this morning.

    To preface: I've been really working on emptiness or vacancy of mind,
    and also thought discipline in everyday life. I've been finding it
    pretty difficult.

    Lately, to add to that, I've been eating a lot of sugar, and just
    sitting around, which I think contributed to my mental agitation and
    restlessness. It has made for difficult meditation -- it's hard to
    even pay attention to how my mind likes to be distracted.

    I woke up at 4:30 to go to the bathroom and my mind was so jerky that
    I couldn't get back to sleep until around 6. When I finally did
    drift back to sleep, at some point I found myself in a lucid dream.

    I've had lucid dreams before, but at the point in my life when I was
    really trying for them -- when I really put a lot of myself into the
    effort -- they tended to be very short and also very sexual, in a
    knee-jerk way.

    This was pretty different. The dream-situation was fairly normal --
    just walking around in a public area. But this time I was relaxing
    into it, which I usually forget to do. For the first time I had a
    sense that I could keep myself from waking up, by relaxing. I
    attribute this to the practice of meditation, making me more aware of
    how I tense up and am afraid all of the time.

    Well, I was walking around, and I had a few different kinds of
    experiences.

    Every time I saw a woman that I was sexually attracted to, and
    started thinking, hey maybe I'll try to have sex with her, she
    started to fade and the dream went all hazy, as it does just before I
    wake up. So I tried to relax away from that desire. Then it
    happened a few more times, and I realized what was happening: my
    desire was causing tension in me.

    A little bit later, I was walking down a road and somehow I had a
    garland of flowers around my head. Then suddenly it was a vine of
    some evil plant that started biting me. I tried to get away from it,
    but the more I resisted, the more surrounded I was by trees and vines
    that were biting and snapping at me. Again, I realized what was
    happening, and I stopped resisting. I let them bite me. It hurt for
    a few more moments, and then they all vanished.

    I realized then that any kind of ATTACHMENT caused me to tense and
    grasp the object of attachment, or push away from it, depending on
    the nature of the attachment. And that caused the reality of the
    dream to fade. Conversely, when I was NOT attached, I couldn't
    believe the clarity of the dream. I could see details of leaves on
    trees a hundred yards away. So this has definite analogues to
    physical vision, too. Everything become so real and vivid -- until I
    got attached to something else, which was pretty frequently.

    I thought that this experience really strongly illustrated the effect
    of attachment on consciousness. I've heard and read Tibetan
    Buddhists saying that the lucid dream state is the fast track to
    enlightenment, and I can see why. The effects of attachment were so
    immediate; it's necessary to cultivate a deep presence and attitude
    of nonattachment in order to even stay in the dream. And, there are
    so many opportunities for immediate gratification.

    In addition to having "enlightenment" possibilities, experiences like
    this seem to give really good feedback for what needs to be worked on
    in terms of soul mirror stuff.

    So, just thought I'd share. I don't have many lucid dreams anymore
    but I guess that one was brought on by insomnia. Maybe I should do
    that more often. :)

    Thanks,
    David

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