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# Re: Hallucinogens

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- Subject: Re: Hallucinogens
- From: "Rand" <hp_rand436103@...>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:25:06 -0000
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    This is an interesting topic- are organic "medicines" (for lack of a
    better term) less harmful than synthetic?
    The answer is no. As a physician who also uses herbal medicine, this
    is an absolute (in general terms).
    In general (but not always), synthetic medicines tend to be more
    potent- in both their desired effect and in side effects. Contrary to
    that, natural medicines tend to be much "dirtier" than synthetic- and
    thus have many more side effects. So, it really depends on the
    indavidual substances being compared. Also, most of the "mind
    altering drugs"- with only a few exceptions, are natural substances-
    just in varying states of modification and refinement.
    What matters, is what chemicals you ingest- in what doses and in what
    combinations.
    Is there a spiritual side?- do the "vibrations" of a substance differ
    if it is a product of "mother earth" or of a human lab? Hmm- what
    about chemicals, fertilizers, pesticides, the poluted water we water
    the plants with, the increased infrared from the dammaged ozone? The
    plants we grow are still very people-modified. What about the
    spiritual state of the producer of synthetic drugs? I don't think we
    can make any clean distinctions.
    Most mind altering substances harm most people most of the time- and
    usually for a long time. Why mess with them?

    >
    > [The hallucinogens that nature provides, such as cannabis, amanita,
    > peyote, etc., are another matter entirely. Some do have toxic
    > effects (and others, tonic effects) upon the physical body, but
    > these are usually not permanent since they arise from an organic
    > substance that the body is naturally able to process. They do NOT
    > damage either the silver or violet cords. Nor do they induce dis-
    > integration. Instead, they *loosen* the bonds between the three
    > bodies without damaging them. They organically force open the
    senses
    > of the astral and mental bodies, much like eating some Chinese hot
    > mustard forces open your sense of smell.]
    >
    > What I was wondering is, can the loosening of the bodies be
    > permanent, at least in the sense that until you actually fix them
    > they'll stay that way? It looks that way from where I'm standing.
    Is
    > the elemental equilibrium going to fix this? I'd give it a solid
    > Maybe but I'm really not sure... If not, what could I do to tighten
    > my bodies back up again?
    >
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Dylan

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