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# Re: Incorporating Self-defense in Hermetic Practices

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- Subject: Re: Incorporating Self-defense in Hermetic Practices
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- Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:04:58 -0000
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    Hi Prometheus

    <<I was wondering if any of the practitioners in the group have found
    a way to integrate some form of self-defence training into their
    Hermetic practices. Whether physical or with the use of magic. >>

    I'm in no position to give a good answer but I do find it an
    interesting question/issue.

    On the perspective that self-defence is a credible application
    Of Bardons system, I'll assume this isn't off-topic.

    Bardon himself gave numerous descriptions of lunar spirits that
    specialise in self-protection. And Beings of the Elements can offer
    similar aid upon request, based on my reading of second-hand
    accounts. But given that you are asking, neither suggestion is
    particularly relevant to yourself at present.

    Here's a few ideas, which might encourage further discussion or
    insight, beyond what I can offer myself?

    I know Rawn mentioned that Chi Kung, the practice of manipulating the
    flow of chi (aka Vital Energy) as the internal structure for the
    outward movement of Kung Fu & Tai Chi martial arts, is both
    compatible and synergistic with Bardons practices.
    Several members of this forum appear to be active martial artists.

    A few martial artist's appear to master energies similar to the
    electric & magnetic fluids for self-defence, making the chi kung
    manipulation of chi look quite basic. But that's after decades of
    consistent practice, and such advanced kung fu training is rarely
    available and not without certain risks.

    With a little imagination a number of Bardon's practices could
    probably be used to paralyse an attacker, given enough practice. But
    that may require an unbalanced development (never advisable as per
    Bardon).

    The triple shielding that Rawn suggests offers a type of self-
    defence ? against air-borne microbes (not to be overlooked if
    holding
    down full time employment!)

    Karma is obviously an issue whenever physical attacks are involved. I
    can't really comment on such things but I believe Rawn mentioned
    that
    the TMO practice offered the means to render certain karmic lessons a
    little less harsh. This practice conducted with your family in mind
    may well help offset any severe karmic problems sitting on the
    distant horizon (though I am speculating, best ask Rawn?)

    Some attacks on people seem to occur almost because those people have
    a victim's mentality. Like as if unconscious body language is
    saying `over here, I'm a target'. Soul mirror work on
    hidden
    anxieties, fears, etc., and the Step III work on the Elements, Fire
    in particular, may help to bolster the aura to avoid looking an easy
    target perhaps?

    Step III & Step V practitioners could probably create gemstone
    talismans with either VE or the Elements respectively, with the
    ideation of protection, and given to the loved ones as keepsakes or
    pieces of jewellery, provided they were kept on their person. (Again,
    I'm speculating?)

    There are many other possibilities hidden within Bardon's
    methodology
    that could perhaps be applied to self-defence, provided it is self-
    defence not attack, but these few ideas might get the ball
    rolling?

    I wish you and your family well.

    Richard

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  - Incorporating Self-defense in Hermetic Practices
    - From: Zelator <zelator79@...>

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