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# Re: A thing or two

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: A thing or two
- From: "kurtis1984" <kurtis1984@...>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 01:31:45 -0000
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    Dear Chad,

    > Pretty much what I'm wondering is do these daydreams count towards
    > completing the first step of this exercise, and if not (which I
    > believe to probably be the case), how can I get on track to something
    > else without removing my status as a silent observer? I am thinking
    > if I force certain thoughts into my head before practicing this may
    > work, I have yet to try. I'm sure somebody here can give me a nudge
    > in the right direction, pretty simple stuff here.

    I'm also on step 1, and doing the Thought Control exercise as well.

    I think it doesn't matter what you observe during your meditation.
    Bardon's examples of jobs/everyday matters etc. were used to point out
    that there is nothing deeply magical/mystical (in the common sense of
    the word, although I suspect it is a subtly magical exercise) about
    this exercise, you just have to observe your thoughts.

    However, I think you have to make a distinction between day-dreaming
    and meditation. With day-dreaming, your are not in control of your
    mind, which is the aim of this exercise. When you're day-dreaming,
    you're unconsciously engaging your fantasies and giving them energy.

    Thought control meditation is the first step in training your mind to
    perform as you wish it to; (the next two steps- thought discipline and
    mastery of thoughts keep adding to overall mind control) active when
    it needs to be, silent when in needs to be.

    As I said previously, day dreams are not controlled by your will, they
    are fueled by other unconscious sources. This has to be remedied if
    one wants to progress as a magician, because a magician must always be
    in control of his or her mind.

    So I suppose what you have to do is watch your thoughts arise
    (whatever they are- doesn't matter) and don't get involved with them.

    Hopefully this has helped somewhat.

    Cheers,
    Kurt

- References:
  - A thing or two
    - From: "meyer_cohen" <meyer_cohen@...>

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