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# Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification
- From: "sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@...>
- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:44:22 -0000
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    Yes it was helpful. I remember in the Questions and Answers Bardon
    says that, I think, some type of thoughts don't originate from our
    own minds but are picked out of the Ether.

    I guess I should just get into a day dreaming mindset and just
    observe and remember it.

    Ardeshir

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "lux xul" <luxxul@h...> wrote:
    > Another possiblity is that we ASSUME our understanding
    of 'thought' and of
    > 'ourselves' is significant enough to ascertain OURSELVES and our
    awareness
    > accurately and correctly. Since that 'understanding' is based upon
    a
    > possible set of inherent ignorances (a limited sphere of
    understanding
    > acting from a place of believing it understands itself and does
    not see the
    > fence surrounding and limiting its awareness), it believes it can
    trust its
    > own judgement and grasp something that only EXPERIENCE can
    illuminate. Its a
    > trick of the rational mind to reduce anything to ridiculousness if
    it cannot
    > be grasped by that finite persceptive quality.
    >
    > It has been my experience that there is much more to my mind and
    to "my"
    > thought (if it is "mine".. ??) than my personality and
    consciousness grasps.
    > Most growth is only determined as such when looking backwards upon
    the time
    > spent. Most growth happens when one is not paying attention. Else,
    one may
    > impede ones own growth. Consider learning to walk as a child.. did
    we KNOW
    > and understand or simply "do until done,..look back and
    comprehend.."? We
    > TRUSTED in others. Faith.
    >
    > My suggestion, temporarily suspend your own opinion concerning
    such
    > things.. rational grasping and understanding is overrated
    sometimes as the
    > be and end all of awareness. Its only your rational mind. Not much
    in IHH is
    > typically "Rational".. So, its a good place to begin suspending
    your
    > opinion. It may not serve u here to hold to your opinion, consider
    it a
    > "guardian" of sorts. Dont let it imprison you behind the doorway
    that it
    > guards. You can invite it back later on if u desire to. It is
    possible.
    >
    > Then, TRUST and act in the belief that others who have bumped into
    this same
    > 'wall', passed it the same way. And u will as well.
    >
    > Your INTENTION is not necessarily always associated with your
    AWARENESS of
    > that INTENTION. Your INTENTION may be outside of your
    personalities
    > self-awareness. So, it would be outside the toolset (if u will) of
    that
    > persceptive 'vehicle'. Dont trust your opinion, just let it serve
    u, try not
    > to serve it.
    >
    > Thank you.
    >
    > I sincerely hope that helps some.
    > Its simply my 'opinion'. ;)
    > :T:
    >
    >
    > >From: "sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@y...>
    > >Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    > >To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: [BardonPraxis] Re: First 3 steps-
    > >questions-experience-clarification
    > >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:08:08 -0000
    >
    > >
    > >I don't see how a thought or train of thought can originate by
    > >itself without your own intention and involvement in the thought,

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