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# Re: Re: Questions about Fluid Condensers

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Questions about Fluid Condensers
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:22:47 -0800
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    Dear Peter,

    Jeesh! You're really keeping me on my toes today, Peter! ;-) After
    I'm done with this one, my poor brain's gonna need a long rest! ;-)
    ;-)

    Let me start in the middle first:

    >> What is the difference between a fluid condenser and a substance that
    is naturally composed of the fluids and elements? Also, isn't pretty
    much everything composed of the fluids and elements? <<

    EVERY thing is composed of the Fluids and their Elements. So, in this
    sense, form itself is a sort of Fluid *combiner*. This is different
    from a Fluid *condenser* in that the condenser can hold onto an
    additional accumulation of the Fluids, separate from the Fluids which
    compose its form. Another thing that distinguishes a condenser from
    other forms is that holding onto a really, really intense accumulation
    will not harm the condenser itself.

    >> So then the human body would itself be a fluid condenser in and of
    itself, correct? After, through the numerous exercises in IIH Bardon has
    the student drawing in and accumulating the elements, fluids and lights
    within the self. <<

    The human being can be *transformed into* a Fluid condenser, but without
    this work of self-transformation, the human body is not, strictly
    speaking, a natural condenser. For example, when you load another
    person with an accumulation of a Fluid/Element, it will, with time,
    dissipate. The body does not *automatically* hold the accumulation.
    Plus, the body can be easily damaged by too intense an accumulation
    being present for too long a time.

    By following the Bardon training you are transforming yourself in the
    ways necessary for you to become a Fluid/Element condenser which will
    automatically *hold* an accumulated charge for as long as desired,
    without harm. In certain circumstances this is a useful ability since
    it frees the consciousness from the labor of recharging an accumulation
    during an overly-long ritual. But then again, it's a minor advantage
    since the same effect can be accomplished in other ways (such as loading
    a separate condenser).

    >> However, at the same time, I do believe Bardon writes that you should
    gradually increase the accumulated charge within the body so not to
    overload the body like a capacitor or a circut breaker. In which case
    the intrinsic ability for the body to retain an accumulated charge can
    be changed with practice. <<

    Yes. This is *part of* the transformation process that enables your
    bodies to actually hold an accumulation without damage and without the
    need for constant replenishment. It's very much akin to what an
    Alchemist does to the materia at certain stages, wherein a process is
    repeated over and over until the materia reaches a certain fluidity.
    The structure of the materia is factually altered and this leads to new
    characteristics and capacities, etc.

    >>>>You are correct in your idea of astral and mental condensers. A
    physical Fluid condenser immediately effects all three realms
    simultaneously and must be created within the physical realm, out of
    physical materia; an astral condenser, effects the astral and mental
    realms simultaneously and must be created within the astral realm,
    out of astral materia; and a mental condenser, effects only the
    mental realm immediately and, likewise, must be created within the
    mental realm, out of mental materia. The process of creating astral
    and mental condensers requires a ficility with each of these realms
    and the direct manipulation of their respective materia. For
    example, in order to create an astral condenser you would need to
    directly shape the astral materia itself, be able to finalize its
    form (i.e., give it stable duration), and then load it with an
    appropriate accumulation of Fluids/Elements. All of these tasks
    would need to be carried out within the astral realm.<<<<<
    >> I might be totally off base here, but isn't that the procedure within
    the first few steps of The Key to True Quaballah? Which might account
    for the changes that happen when one works with those exercises. <<

    The preparatory Steps of KTQ are a continuation of the aforementioned
    process of transformation of the materia, but at a higher pitch, so to
    speak. In order for the KTQ transformations to have the correct effect
    upon the individual, the prerequisite transformations (Steps One through
    Eight of IIH) must already have taken firm hold. In other words, the
    preparatory Steps of KTQ only work (properly) upon a sufficiently
    prepared materia. Only after the materia has been transform again by
    the KTQ preparatory work, is one able to then *speak* Kabbalistically.

    Kabbalistic speech itself however, is *more than* a condenser. It's
    more akin to a Philosopher's Stone in that it *automatically*
    accumulates, combines and sets into motion, the Fluids, without the need
    for loading by the magician. Kabbalistic speech is a creative act that
    *instantly* gives *form to* the raw, undifferentiated Fluids/Elements.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    03 Jan 2003
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis

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