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# Re: Re: Cannabis and does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Cannabis and does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?
- From: <dustovshio@...>
- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
- In-reply-to: <bdvjbe+clr8@eGroups.com>

    Hello friend,

    In my experience cannabis does indeed open up the
    inner senses when used in conjunction with occult
    practices and ritual. For example, I was able to
    clearly "be" in the astral images from the LBRP that
    had been built up over the past couple years.
    Although the experience did reinforce the idea that
    the astral and mental planes are very real, I found
    that prolonged use (or even just one time) caused the
    internal dialog to become more active. This was a
    problem for me, and hindered the mental exercises.
    Depending on your will or disposition, you may have
    similar challenges. I am very active with air, so
    this could have contributed to the problem. It seems
    as though the substance itself causes an imbalance in
    the water element, thus making it difficult to
    mobilize one's will i.e. it makes you lazy. On the
    other hand, it became easier to visualize for a few
    days after I got stoned. I think it helped me to
    learn the intent of visualization. However, I am not
    currently utilizing that intent to strengthen my
    visual powers, so I either forgot how or have become
    too blocked subconsciously to change readily. The
    only long term benefit I gained from using cannabis
    was the ability to utilize new emotional states
    (experienced while high) through intent and memory.
    It was also useful in self analysis and
    metaprogramming; I occasionally entered a state of
    "witnessing" consciousness through the use of
    negative-negative thinking, which was very liberating.
    Each person's initiation is highly personal; in my
    experience, smoking weed was a necessary phase of
    deprogramming, to prepare me for real work. But there
    is no place for it if you are going to be living a
    tight life. Then again, it could probably used
    magickaly by a talented person. Unfortunately, I'm
    not that talented.

    Sincerely,
    Dustin

    --- metaphysics0000 <crispinp@...> wrote:
    > Hi Everyone,
    > I'm going to shine a crack of light into this topic:
    > From what I have
    > read, cannabis does little more than organically
    > open up the mental
    > and astral senses. I seem to be having stage 4 (as
    > Leary called it),
    > sensory exhancement type experiences through the
    > work of step 3, and
    > stilling the mind. Does this mean that at some
    > stage in your
    > development you turn onto a permanent cannabis like
    > trip?
    > Also, does anybody know how this plant could help
    > Magic studies? - I
    > am thinking about trying it.
    > All the best,
    > M
    >
    >

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