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# Some comments leading to a question

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- Subject: Some comments leading to a question
- From: "forestofsymbols" <forestofsymbols@...>
- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:24:44 -0000
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     All,

    The other day something quite unusual happened and I am not sure
    what to make of it. I am hoping some one here might have a better
    idea than I do. I apologize if my words are unclear, it can be hard
    to describe subjective states as I'm sure we all know.

    A little while ago, I decided to experiment with the TMO lessons
    designed by Rawn to see what, if any effect that it might have. I
    must admit that initially I was quite skeptical about them until I
    whimsically downloaded an audio file one day and actually heard the
    canting. It sounded interesting so I decided to give it a go.

    The other day I was applying the principles of Lesson 2, involving
    the different levels of "speaking." Oddly enough, I have not yet
    heard about these different levels even though they seem to be
    essential in bringing about a complete focus on a cant, a mantra, or
    other "vibrating" form of speech. I was working on the IHVH cant as
    well as some other "vibrating" forms of speech and then settled in to
    my regular meditation.

    When I got to the point where I would practice vacancy of mind, my
    mind began to wander to my body and it noticed that there was a
    tingling in my hands and feet that I usually associate with the
    feeling of "prana" or "qi". For a time, I kept going back to the
    exercise, viewing it all as a distraction. However, a thought
    occured to me that I could "relax" into the tingling mentally much
    like one relaxes the muscles of the body or face.

    What happened was that I felt a sudden rush into my body of this
    tingling, completely and utterly, to the point where I was no longer
    aware of anything in the outside world. All outer sounds were gone,
    replaced by the ringing sound in my ears (which, incidentally, seems
    to always be there at some level, more or less quiet-- I have no
    reason to believe this is unusual or a medical problem). Visually, I
    could no longer see the darks of my eyelids or the sparkling
    afterimages of light I usually see when my eyes are closed. Instead,
    I saw the sparkling in a uniform blue that were actually moving with
    a set rythmn. Finally, I could not feel my body at all. It was all
    very peaceful and hard to form any thoughts, although my little ego
    tried as much as it could to react to what was happening. Then it was
    as though it passed, and I could feel my body and the outside world,
    and then it was all gone again, as though the "feeling" was an onrush
    of water from the outside, sweeping through me.

    I'm not sure how much time passed, but soon my little ego filled
    my mind with thoughts and I was back in my body, in my room, at a
    particular place and time.

    My question is: does anyone know where this fits in the Hermetic
    worldview? I usually give little credence to unusual happenings in
    the course of meditation, but this one seemed somehow significant. I
    am still developing Step One of IIH and thus have very little "real"
    knowledge of Hermetics.

    Thank you.

    -mj

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