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# Re: Step 2 - "feeling concentration"

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Step 2 - "feeling concentration"
- From: Newbieonekenhobby <newbieonekenhobby@...>
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:46:22 -0800 (PST)
- In-reply-to: <20031124071703.69801.qmail@...>

    Thanks Mark - good idea. The components of a repeated
    and known feeling should be easier to "split" indeed.

    But, in fact, what I wanted to validate was less the
    way to experience cold than my understanding of Rawn's
    text : isolation and concentration on the *essential
    meaning* of cold's components, and not on cold itself,
    as I understood from Bardon's wording first.
    I'm asking this question because *keeping focused on
    /reproduce an astral body-related sensation* (feeling
    cold) is not the same as *keeping focused on a
    fonction of the mental body* (essential meaning).
    That's why. But I may be mixing things up.

    Anyway. I have the ...feeling that by the time I have
    succeeded in this exercise, I'll be the cleanest
    Newbie of the world :-)

    Thanks anyway :-)

    NB

    --- mark towse <bigimpact2003@...> wrote:
    > Hi Newbie,
    >
    > If your having your bath / shower with very cold
    > water everyday a'la step 1, focus on that experience
    > as its a completely immersive cold experience and
    > very easy to bring back to your conscious awareness.
    > The immersiveness of this cold experience with your
    > entire body should enable you to more easily single
    > parts out.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > newbieonekenhobby <newbieonekenhobby@...>
    > wrote:
    > If I understand the example of "smelling the rose"
    > correctly, and if
    > I apply it to *cold*, e.g.:
    >
    > a) I start with holding something cold in my hands,
    > or I go outside.
    > b) I determine the kinesthetic components of what
    > I'm feeling
    > c) I connect to their essential meaning, and then
    > get rid of the
    > components themselves.
    > d) then I actually *run my meditation on the
    > essential meaning of
    > cold* afterwards.
    >
    > Is this correct ?
    > Is this the same as *feeling the cold*, as Bardon
    > prescribes ? 'cause he said "here is the object is
    > to call into
    > being the *feeling* of coldness ...etc." ? I
    > understand using
    > essential meaning makes sense because the exercise
    > addresses the
    > mental level and not the sensations of the astral
    > body, but I'm not
    > entirely sure :-)
    >
    > Many thanks.
    >
    > -The Newbie who's gonna go out to the cold :-)
    >
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