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# Re: New guy with the usual dumb questions

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] New guy with the usual dumb questions
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:13:26 -0700
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    Dear Jason,

    >> 1stly, is this correct and what does it *mean*? I can tell that
    Moryason has quite a leaning towards the Asian systems and the terms
    from 4 onward mean nothing whatsoever to me, nor does Bardon mention
    them that I can discover. <<

    I suggest that you ignore Moryason's comments if they don't help you
    understand Bardon. :) He does not present an *Hermetic* division of
    "levels" and I think his comments were meant to aid those who already
    understood the labels he uses, comprehend the Hermetic labels that they
    perhaps would not immediately understand. At any rate, if they confuse
    *you*, then focus instead upon Bardon's own words.

    >> 2ndly, in the hope of integrating the terminologies of Taoist systems
    with which I'm a bit familiar... is the 'etheric body', which I
    associate with what Bardon calls the 'astral matrix' (holds our astral
    to our physical bodies) the same as the system of routes and channels,
    the acupuncture meridians and other more psychic energy orbits in the
    body, that the Taoists meditate upon?
    3rdly, if the etheric plane is closer to ours than the astral why
    doesn't Bardon mention it? <<

    "Etheric" is one of those words that seems to take on new meaning
    depending upon who's mouth it comes out of. What exactly do *you* mean
    by "etheric"?

    If you mean the energy body that many perceive as an aura, then this is
    an aspect of the *physical* realm and is composed of *physical* energy,
    albeit a very rarified form of physical energy. These are the currents
    of energy which run around inside and outside the physical body. This
    is not the *astral* matrix, but rather, the *physical* matrix which
    adheres to the astral matrix. This energy often appears to be
    more-than-physical because it exists at such a rarified physical state
    that it most immediately susceptible to, and affected by, astral and
    mental influence. From an Hermetic perspective this is considered an
    aspect of the physical body.

    >> 4thly and finally, I'm going to try and read every past post on this
    group
    but this will take me approximately 100 days! <<

    ;-) You might want to check out
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/Corresp-Links.html where I've posted
    some of the juiciest ones! ;-)

    >> So in the meanwhile, in an early post Mr Clark mentioned that the
    mental sphere is the origin of magic. I was wondering if this could be
    expanded upon a little? Is it a question of its being the place of
    imagination? I think I understand this on an intuitive level but cannot
    quite express it well... <<

    I think what I said was that all magical acts are directed by the
    magician's mental body or conscious awareness. This is why mental
    discipline is so utterly essential.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    19 Aug 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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