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# Re: Re: Another Step One question - EOM and lucid dreams

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Another Step One question - EOM and lucid dreams
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:33:04 -0800
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    Dear David,

    >> But from looking at various spiritual approaches to different states
    of consciousness, it's become more plain to me that there is a point,
    it's just part of a larger context of growth and learning than just
    using the dream as a Holodeck. so what you said makes sense. <<

    It can be a very useful tool in the context of the Soul Mirror work and
    character transformation.

    >> Which leads me to a few other questions on emptiness. I think I am
    finally experiencing scanty moments of "true" emptiness. It feels like
    whenever I experience it, I grab at it and try to hold it and so it
    slips away. So instead I just have to keep "dodging" thoughts and focus
    on being open and allowing the emptiness to permeate me. Does that
    sound about right? <<

    Sure. :)

    >> Also, Rawn, you mentioned that in step one Bardon only expects the
    student to have achieved a silencing of surface thoughts, not a complete
    emptiness of mind. At one point does is Bardon's minimal requirement
    for having achieved vacancy of mind fulfilled: At the point where my
    thoughts stop being verbal and begin to be more feeling-ideas, or at the
    point where they are entirely gone? <<

    True emptiness is no-thought, no-thinking, just the pure perception of
    BEing. By the end of Step One it needs to be no-thinking. As time goes
    by and your practice continues, different layers of the mind reveal
    themselves and the emptiness changes character as you become more and
    more accustomed to it.

    >> How do you differentiate between awareness of inner experience in
    general
    (thoughts, ideas, feelings, images, etc.) and awareness of thought (a la
    Thought Control) if they are all connected and related? <<

    The "thought control" exercise is about *passively observing* what
    transpires in the surface mind. In other words, it's non-participatory
    and all you do is *observe*. The "though discipline" exercise, on the
    other hand, is about focusing intensively upon just a single thought or
    train of thoughts while simultaneously excluding all unrelated thoughts.
    The subject "thoughts" is the same in both exercises but the difference
    is found in your relationship to those thoughts.

    >> And is it normal to feel fear when opening up to this emptiness? It
    feels like I am resisting the letting go of my ego-boundaries. <<

    I'd say it's a fairly common reaction. Resistance to change breeds
    fear. The "trick" is to not resist. "Resistance is futile!" ;-)

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    13 Nov 2003
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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  - Re: Another Step One question - EOM and lucid dreams
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