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- Subject: Re: a question about the eucharist
- From: "draco_io" <Draco_io@...>
- Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:40:00 -0000
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    Dear Rawn,

    Thank you for that list. Is the database you mentioned searchable by
    topic? I think that would have been especially useful in step 6.
    Still, the statementes are better topics for meditation than they are
    definitions of akasha. For example, what exactly does it mean to be
    spaceless and timeless? Can anyone imagine such a state?

    There are also some internal inconsistencies with the statements. For
    example, in the last sentence of item #7, Bardon is apparently
    referring to the astral plane as spaceless and timeless, yet that is
    the definition of akasha.
    In KTQ, bardon talks about akasha, the mental plane (causal in most
    vernacular.), and the astral plane. The difference between them is
    that akasha is spaceless and timeless, the next region includes
    space, and farther down you also get time. It's important to keep
    these distinctions in mind, otherwise, it's easy to get lost.

    Bardon gave the world a lot. Unfortunately, he didn't give us
    everything. Part of the path to becomming an "initiate" is to
    decipher the meaning of some of this cryptic material.

    With respect to "akasha," the single best definition I've heard is
    that it is simply the "mind of god." Perhaps this is not immediately
    comprehensible either, but it is also a good topic for meditation.

    Thanks again for that list.

    respectfully,

    Frater QV

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...>
    wrote:
    > Dear 'FraterQV',
    >
    > >> Bardon never really gave a good definition of what "akasha" is.
    > There are several different meanings depending on which
    mystical/magical
    > school you are talking about. If anyone can quote Bardon's
    > comments/definition on "akasha," I would really love to hear it. <<
    >
    > Okay. :) Bardon actually wrote quite a bit about the Akasha and
    thanks
    > to the digital versions of his works that are available (except for
    > "Questions and Answers"), here are all of his most relevant comments
    > describing the Akasha:
    >
    > From "Initiation Into Hermetics" --
    >
    > 1) Several times while describing the elements I have said that
    they
    > proceed from the ethereal principle. Accordingly, the ethereal
    principle
    > is the ultimate, the supreme, the most powerful thing, something
    > inconceivable, the ultimate cause of all things existing and
    created. To
    > put it in a nutshell, it is the causal sphere. Therefore akasa is
    > spaceless and timeless. It is the non-created, the
    incomprehensible, the
    > indefinable. The various religions have given it the name of God.
    It is
    > the fifth power, the original power. Everything has been created by
    it
    > and is kept in balance by it. It is the origin and the purity of all
    > thoughts and intentions, it is the causal world wherein the whole
    > creation in subsisting on, beginning from the highest spheres down
    to
    > the lowest ones. It is the quintessence of the alchemists; it is
    all in
    > all.
    >
    >
    > 2) Now the question will arise were and how akasa or the etheric
    > principle occurs in the grossly material body. In doing some deeper
    > thinking, everybody will be able to answer this question by
    himself, for
    > the etheric principle is hidden in its most grossly material form
    in the
    > blood and in the seed and in the reciprocal action of these two
    > substances in the vital matter or in the vitality.
    >
    >
    > 3) The material world has emerged from the principle of akasa,
    i.e.,
    > the known ether. The world also is controlled and kept by this same
    > principle.
    >
    >
    > 4) Through subtler vibrations of the elements, through the
    electric and
    > the magnetic fluid of their polarity, the man proper, the soul has
    > proceeded from the akasa principle or the finer etheric vibrations.
    >
    >
    > 5) The centre of the ether or principle of akasa is found in the
    region
    > of the neck and is named Visudha.
    >
    >
    > 6) Beginning at the top, from the supreme centre, along the neck,
    down
    > to the lowest centre, like a channel runs the socalled Susumna or
    the
    > akasa-principle already known to us, liable for the connection and
    > control of the entire centres.
    >
    >
    > 7) The astral plane, often designated as the fourth dimension, has
    not
    > been created out of the four elements, but it is a density-degree
    of the
    > akasa principle, consequently of all that up to now, in the material
    > world occurred, is actually occurring and will occur, and has its
    > origin, regulation and existence. As said before, akasa in its most
    > subtle form is the ether, well known to all of us, in which, amongst
    > other vibrations, electric as well as magnetic ones are propagating.
    > Consequently this vibration-sphere is the origin of light, sound,
    colour
    > , rhythm, and life in all things created. As akasa is the origin of
    all
    > existing things, all that ever was produced, is being produced and
    will
    > be produced in the future is reflected in it. Therefore, in the
    astral
    > plane there is to be seen an emanation of the eternal, having
    neither a
    > beginning nor an end, as it is timeless and spaceless.
    >
    >
    > 8) From the supreme prototype (akasa), the original source of all
    > beings, has proceeded the spirit, the spiritual EGO with the four
    > specific elemental qualities, proper to the immortal spirit, which
    was
    > created in God's image.
    >
    >
    > 9) All the other qualities of the spirit are based upon these four
    > original principles. The typical part of the fifth, say the etheric
    > principle (akasa) manifests itself, in the highest aspect, in the
    faith
    > and, in the lowest form, in the instinct of self-preservation.
    >
    >
    > 10) Both these spheres, the material as well as the astral one have
    > been born from the akasa or original principle of the respective
    sphere,
    > through the four elements, and also the mental sphere is built upon
    the
    > same foundation, and therefore likewise a product of the akasa
    principle
    > of the spirit. Similar to the spirit, developing in a fourpole
    magnet by
    > corresponding work and showing an electromagnetic fluid analogous
    to
    > the astral body, on account of the effect of the elements, as a
    > secondary phenomenon of the polarity on the outside, the mental body
    > develops in the mental or spiritual sphere. Just in the same way as
    the
    > astral body, through the electromagnetic fluid of the astral world,
    > forms an astral matrix, the so-called astral od, the electromagnetic
    > fluid of the mental world forms a mental matrix linking the mental
    body
    > to the astral body. This mental matrix or the mental od, the so-
    called
    > mental substance, is the subtlest form of akasa which controls and
    > preserves the spiritual activity in the astral body.
    >
    >
    > 11) Simultaneously, the mental sphere is the sphere of thoughts
    which
    > have their origin in the world of ideas, consequently in the
    spiritual
    > akasa. Each thought is preceded by a basic idea which, according to
    its
    > property, accepts a definite form, and arrives to the consciousness
    of
    > the ego through the etheric principle, consequently the mental
    matrix,
    > as expression of the thought in the shape of a plastic picture.
    > Therefore Man himself is not the founder of the thoughts, but the
    origin
    > of each thought is to be sought in the supreme akasa sphere or the
    > mental plane.
    >
    >
    > 12) Working in the akasa principle is timeless and spaceless; in
    the
    > mental sphere, you operate with time; in the astral sphere, you work
    > with space (shape, colour); in the material world, you work with
    time
    > and space simultaneously.
    >
    >
    > 13) Consciousness knows neither time nor space; it is consequently
    an
    > akasa-principle.
    >
    >
    > 14) This mental balance is the specific fundamental property of the
    > akasa or causal principle of the mind.
    >
    >
    > 15) Working through this step the scholar should be able to
    transfer
    > himself at any hour and in every situation into this depthpoint,
    into
    > the akasa principle, from there perceiving and influencing all that
    > concerns his being. This consciousness transference into the akasa
    > principle is the genuine magical state of trance and represents the
    > preliminary stage of the connection with the cosmic consciousness.
    >
    >
    > 16) We have heard that akasa is the primary source, the sphere of
    all
    > causes. Any deliberate cause, such as a wish, a thought, any
    imagination
    > created in this sphere together with the dynamic conviction is
    bound to
    > be realized with the help of the elements, regardless of the level
    or
    > sphere on which the realization necessarily has to be performed.
    This is
    > one of the greatest magic mysteries and a universal key for the
    > magician, who will understand its range only later on in the course
    of
    > his development. The scholar should always keep his mind on his own
    > ethical development, which will certainly help him to do only good
    and
    > noble deeds. Our next exercise will be to win absolute control of
    the
    > elements with the help of the akasa principle in all the three
    realms.
    >
    >
    > 17) The akasa principle, in its simplest form expresses itself as
    > conscience.
    >
    >
    > 18)
    > Element: Fire Air Water Earth Akasa
    > Sense: Eyes Ears Perception Taste/Smell All in all
    > Quality: Will Intellect Feeling Consciousness Conscience
    > Exercise: Optic Acoustic Emotional Expand consc. Realization
    >
    >
    > 19) Now load your right hand with akasa, which you imagine to be
    of a
    > black- violet colour.
    >
    >
    > 20) A magician has got to be kind, obliging and willing to help at
    any
    > time, to assist by word and deed, to act generously, considerately
    and
    > discretely. He must be free from ambition, superciliousness and
    avoid
    > any boasting. All such passions would be reflected in the akasa
    and, the
    > akasa principle being analogous to harmony, akasa itself would
    certainly
    > put the greatest obstacles in the magician's way to stop his further
    > development, if not make it quite impossible. Any further rising in
    a
    > case like that would be quite out of question. Just remember
    Bulwer's
    > novel Zanoni, in which the guardian of the threshold, nothing else
    but
    > akasa, sees that the highest mysteries do not come overnight to
    unworthy
    > people. Akasa will derange a person mentally, arouse doubts of all
    > kinds, or hold him prisoner by vicissitudes and reverses of fortune
    in
    > order to protect the mysteries in every possible way. These
    mysteries
    > will always remain hidden from incompetent persons, though hundreds
    of
    > books should be published about them.
    >
    >
    > 21) Since the akasa principle ignores time and space, acting
    > permanently in the present time, for the concept of time depends on
    our
    > senses, the magician is advised to adapt himself as much as
    possible to
    > akasa. He must acknowledge the great moment of NOW as
    representative,
    > thinking and acting according to it.
    >
    >
    > From "Key to the True Quabbalah" --
    >
    > 22) The sun in the center of the picture represents Divine
    Providence,
    > the Akasa Principle, the origin of all that exists.
    >
    >
    > 23) The "Ch" has a violet color oscillation and thus appertains to
    the
    > akasa principle
    >
    >
    > 24) The "E", in a dark violet color, akasa violet, light
    oscillation.
    > The "E" has the specific characteristic of the akasa principle
    which is
    > revealed, in its elemental effect, in a feeling of power of
    penetrating
    > all.
    >
    >
    > 25) This number is graphically symbolized by a triangle. The three
    is
    > the number of akasa principle, of fate, of karma, and, planetarily
    seen,
    > the three is attributed to the sphere of Saturn. Everything that
    was,
    > that is and that will be, the mental as well as the astral and the
    > material, originates from the akasa principle, wherein the three is
    also
    > to be found. Number three is the original idea of procreation, which
    > manifests itself in the plus and the minus, i.e., in man and woman
    who,
    > in unification, beget the third, i.e., the child. In man himself,
    the
    > three is represented by spirit, soul and body. The three is also the
    > number of intuition. All religious systems, in their fateful
    > manifestation, have derived from this number. Three is the number of
    > life and death. It is the number of cognition in its highest form.
    >
    >
    > From "Practice of Magical Evocation --
    >
    > 26) The Akasha Principle of the astral sphere maintains the
    harmonious
    > equilibrium of the elements in the entire astral sphere.
    >
    >
    > 27) The magician also has another opportunity: he can symbolize the
    > elements in the circle, in which particular case he only has to
    place
    > four lamps inside the magic circle. The magician who stands in the
    > center of the magic circle is the representative of the Akasha
    Principle
    > and as such he represents the fifth element.
    >
    >
    > From "Questions & Answers" --
    >
    > 28-54) The last 10 pages (from page 88 onward) are devoted to
    comments
    > pertaining to the Akasha.
    >
    > My best to you,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 11 Feb 2005
    > rawnclark@n...
    > rawn@a...
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