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# Re: Re: A minor soul mirror question

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: A minor soul mirror question
- From: Jwingate2002@...
- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:31:46 EST

    OK Chuck -

    >>About all I got from your own personal experience in that
    description was that through meditation you actually ascertain
    the 'movement' 'motion' of the four elements<<

    Well yeah! You said it right there... I'll try to be more concrete...

    Suppose I were very eager and enthusiastic to communicate something to you.
    (Eager/enthusiastic=fire, *Positive* fire!). Then suppose I tried to
    communicate it over and over again, but you didn't get it and I got frustrated,
    angry, and finally flew at you with a pair of daggers and squelched your
    eyeballs.
    Positive fire turning to negative fire! It's that simple, I mean there's
    nothing esoteric about it. At that point if I have no water to fall back on I
    lose my rag. Luckily for us all I have neither your address nor a lack of
    patience (water) and thus am not angry at all! (So please please don't worry
    about
    that!)

    So you find there must be a balance. Then you wonder why. Then you think,
    this is supposed to work for everything. Take a look around! In your private
    meditations of the Thought Discipline kind, you can think about *why* fire and
    water might balance each other. It's no good asking me for my experiences
    'cause they have to be yours. That's like asking for my soul mirror man, it
    isn't
    done! You can go out and use your life as a playground to see if you're
    right, by remaining aware during the day - that's the other half of thought
    discipline, and all it means to me is 'try to be the kind of person upon whom
    nothing is lost'. (That's a quote but I can't remember the author, sorry!).

    BTW I'm a writer too and you can analyse stories with the Tetragrammaton as
    a key also. If you want to know people's experiences there's alot of books to
    go with. I mean start with Shakespeare! He's good because he wrote about
    nothing but love, but yet there's no happy marriage in Shakespeare (unless you
    are cynical and count the Macbeths!). So why? I mean every real work of art is
    like a soul mirror, you can practice on other people's mirrors that. You can
    come up with a picture of what he was like, what his characters were like...
    it always works.

    Then there's air and earth to think about. They balance each other too, but
    there's that tricky thing of seeing why earth is also said to be made of the
    interaction between the other 3 elements. I mean, what *are* all these funny
    old dudes like Franz and Rawn going on about? But you know they know way more
    than you so why not try to see how it applies? Again you can see it
    happening when you stop to think about it, but obviously it has to be you doing
    the
    thinking! Don't worry, it'll all start to clear if you just hammer at it every
    now and then. I wasn't really talking about experiences unique to myself, we
    all have 'em, that's why they say the key is universal! I was trying to pick
    stuff anyone could relate to.

    One thing I would state, which Bardon didn't although I believe he might
    have agreed, and that is that: Akasha is love. The other four elements could be
    said also to be just love, or maybe 'the ways in which love happens'. I also
    think that the negative side is best said as fear of love rather than hate.
    Just to throw that in there.

    I mean you don't need any more from me! If I can do this anyone can, and
    that's a fact. Just go back to step 1, that's all I've been using - plus
    astrology, psychology, writing, music, I Ching, Enneagram, whatever, but the
    theory
    section of IIH + Step 1 is the thing that makes all the other stuff make
    sense for me, it's the beginning and end, the royal road, it just has obvious
    righteousness. I don't worry these days if I never will get to step 2, I mean
    it! The point is not literally what step you're on, it's just to feel you're
    actually *getting* somewhere. You can be damn sure I'm not leaving step 1 my
    whole life anyhow, but I'm not even touching step 2 until I know there's no way
    I could possibly not have intrinsically completely mastered the whole shit
    out of step 1, pardon my language but there it is. I don't want to wobble
    through on training wheels here!

    deep bow/love/keeping daggers on hand just in case!/[grin]Jason

    PS You can bet that, with his inimitably frank brand of bottomless kindness
    and patience, Rawn is pissing himself laughing at the pair of us right now! I
    know I am anyway!

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