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# Re: Re: What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: What does it mean to become noble concerning passions?
- From: djeestopinal@...
- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:10:43 EST

    Dear NKKA,
    I enjoyed reading your post. Before addressing your statements and
    questions I must let you know that my perspective will be based on an
    anthropological perspective and not Hermetic. I have two undergraduate degrees,
    one is in
    anthropology the other psychology. If I correctly understand your comments,
    you are concerned about what an individual would consider to be positive as
    opposed to a negetive characteristic. You also mentioned culture.
    >From the above mentioned perspective (anthropological), we must look at the
    cultural norms as well as the mythos/belief system of the culture and the
    individuals role in that culture. For example; there are some cultures that
    allow their children, around the age of 12 to 13, to go out into the
    woods/jungle and have sexual relations. It is not necessary to have parental
    conscent.
    This is an acceptable practice within that culture. If the individuals
    were to come to the US and the parents of these children allowed the same
    behavior in our culture they would soon have to deal with child protective
    services.
    The same is true from a historical perspective. At one time people of a
    certain faith sacrificed animals to God. This is no longer accepted. In other
    words when society views your actions/passions and they do not fit within
    social norms, regardless of your belief system, you will be viewed on laws that
    are written based on the social norms of that society. "When in Rome do as
    the Romans."
    You also mentioned killing, either in war or for some government agency.
    This is the sticky part. In war society would view this as normal behavioir
    and perhaps so would a government agency (though they probably would never
    admit it). However, people of various belief systems within our society would
    hold views that are in opposition to one another.
    The real question is this. How does it feel to you to exhibit a certain
    passion or behavior? Does it really feel correct and comfortable? If it does
    and it fits within the laws and acceptable norms of the society in which you
    live then you possibly can consider it a positive behavior.
    >From a clinical socialwork perspective ( which I have a masters degree, for
    what it's worth) I would ask; How does this behavior/passion affect your
    life and/or the lives of others around you? Is it in a positive or negative
    way?
    You may find this method an acceptable way to evaluate your issue.
    Finally, on the issue of noble. I personally consider noble to be above the
    norm. Such as nobility are supposed to be above the average person.
    Regarding your soul mirror, I must admit that I am new to the Bardon system,
    but
    not new to the study of behavior. I didn't want to toot my horn regarding
    degrees I have attained, its just that I wanted you to know that my
    perspectives
    are acceptable ones, at least within the fields that I listed. I hope I have
    been of some help. I won't bill you.
    Best regards'
    Dan

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