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# Re: Re: Bardonism

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Bardonism
- From: A student <tibtyc@...>
- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:27:54 +0100
- In-reply-to: <BAY12-F46KnYo9cfJXr0001f27c@...>

    >Would it be accurate to say that the fourth way and theosophy are also forms
    >of hermetics, or are they associated with a different tradition?

    I wonder, too, especially about the 4-th way. At least superficially it
    seems very different from Bardonism. Then again, maybe the difference is in
    the vocabulary and the stress given to diverse aspects of work. What
    Bardon says in a few sentences in the first half of Thought discipline
    (Perform all tasks with complete awareness) is given center stage in the
    Gurdjieff work (self-remembering). I don't say it's unimportant in
    Bardonism, only that few words are said about it.

    Bardon speaks about the four elements, Gurdjieff about the Law of Three,
    three forces being needed for any action (the Earth aspect?). Then we have
    the theory of octaves. Also, Ritual seem to have no place in the 4-th way.

    There is kind of negativity (realism (?)) about the 4-th way when it says
    that one cannot awaken by one's own effort, one always needs help from
    others. Thus work is in groups, with the risk of naive hero-worship, etc .

    Stu

- References:
  - Re: Re: Bardonism
    - From: "Stephen Miller" <qwertyguy3@...>

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