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# Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: First 3 steps- questions-experience-clarification
- From: "setiamon" <setiamon@...>
- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:21:23 -0000
- In-reply-to: <cq05cm+kqc2@eGroups.com>
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    That makes much more sense then being absolutly detached from the
    train of thoughts,because when i detach myself from the
    thoughtpatterns they disappear,they dissolve so at some point the
    first excercise becomes the third if i take it as total detachment,i
    think bardon meant that you should let you mind automate just retain
    your "self" awareness,don't forget yourself.Although i must admit a
    few times i have experienced a sudden altered state like my
    concoussness is pulled outside the thoughtsphere,its like simple
    floating above ones mind with a motionless observer
    conciousness,without any attachment or identification,kinda like a
    oobe where my own mind is like someone elses,another times i have
    emerged from a deep trance or sleep and approuching my thinking mind
    as if it were its own creature,this is something someone advanced has
    to answer...
    Rawn?

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "sineadoconnorfan"
    <sineadoconnorfan@y...> wrote:
    >
    > I'm not really a fan of rationality and the rational mindset
    > either. As far as imagining images is concerned I can see how you
    > can have that without actively creating them, but not with verbal
    > thoughts which you actually have to personally say/think.
    >
    > I am still kind of confused about it because I don't see a train of
    > thought as something that you can be detached from because of the
    > fact that you're actively thinking it. I think Bardon wanted us to
    > get into a train of thought and just be aware of it and remember it.
    >

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