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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Practice of magical Evocation ...
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:49:08 -0700
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    Dear J.,

    Bardon put the beginning of the work of evocation at a point *after* the
    completion of Step Eight of IIH for a number of reasons, many of which
    I've written about in the past. I agree with Bardon's placement as
    being absolutely, unequivocally essential for *genuine* Hermetic
    initiation. As a consequence, I am willing to discuss questions about
    the actual practice of PME *only* with those who have followed Bardon's
    system and have reached the completion of Step Eight -- and then, only
    in private. However, any one who has actually completed Step Eight
    would have no reason to ask me, or any one else, for advice. In other
    words, I will not answer questions whose answers would in any way
    encourage folks to pursue evocation unprepared.

    >> Q: With the correct information, proper training & actual experience
    in the art of evocation, couldn't one achieve some useful insights from
    a kabbalistic understanding of the letters of a beings name ? <<

    In the part of PME which comes before the grimoir, Bardon instructed
    that the *first* step in an evocation is for the magician to mentally
    wander into the entity's realm and contact the entity personally. Such
    an experience brings an intimate understanding of the entity in question
    and completely negates any need for additional intellectual
    "information". What one perceives in that experience has little to no
    relationship to the mundane, human-language letters we might use to
    spell out the phonetic of an entity's "name".

    Hermetic *magic* is not about reliance on lists of names whose
    derivation you have no way of affirming or tables of correspondences
    composed by others, etc. *Magic* is rooted in *personal*, direct
    perception and experience. One reason that Bardon placed evocation
    *after* the completion of Step Eight of IIH is because by that point in
    one's initiation, one is capable of the degree of direct personal
    perception that evocation requires and one has amassed sufficient
    experience to interpret those perceptions accurately. To my mind, an
    aspiring magician is better served by investing their time acquiring
    those abilities through the pursuit of IIH than by diverting their
    energies in areas for which they are unprepared.

    >> Q: ...And are you saying that a spirit/intelligence DOESN'T have a
    melody... that there's no tonal-vibraration specific to each being that
    can help in establishing a handshake protocol ?? <<

    No, that's not what I've said. What I said was that the assignments
    offered are completely useless.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    06 Oct 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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  - Re: Practice of magical Evocation ...
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