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# Re: Initiation into the Mysteries

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Initiation into the Mysteries
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:33:27 -0700
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    Dear 'aha3996',

    >> In my reading over the years, many authors insist that one must have
    a personal teacher/"guru" in order to progress along the path. Others
    advocate that one needs to be linked to an order, via initiation, that
    has a lineage back to the original source of the mysteries. Rene Guenon
    advocates this position and then proceeds to tell the reader that at
    the present he knows of no genuine initiatory groups other than the
    shadow of them found in various existing groups of freemasonry. Franz
    Bardon seems to take the opposite view of not being bound by any oath or
    to any group or person with the alternative of following the path on
    your own. Any input out there on these divergent opinions? <<

    There are several factors here, foremost of which is that these authors
    were likely taught by others to think that way. Other factors are that
    they were/are likely involved in a group, involved with a specific
    teacher/guru or are themselves looking for students and thus have a
    vested self-interest in others thinking as they do that a
    teacher/guru/group is *required*.

    Also, there are traditions and lineages of practice and dogma that do
    indeed *require* a personal teacher to learn since they are passed along
    only in that way or are so complex that they are impossible to learn on
    one's own.

    Bardon's statements about obligating oneself by oath to a teacher or
    group came from his own personal experience of groups and teachers. His
    point however had little to do with dogmatic tradition but rather,
    pertained specifically to the essential *process* of Hermetic initiation
    itself, stripped of all self-interest and dogma. The system he
    presented negates the prior need for such obligations because it
    encapsulates the essential work of initiation that, teacher/group or
    not, the student themselves must perform for themselves and on their
    own. The work he described does not *require* a teacher or group
    because it is something no teacher or group can do for you -- it's the
    work *you* have to do yourself whether or not a teacher/group is in any
    way involved.

    And there it is, all written down and it costs nothing more than the
    price of the book. And, no oaths or allegiances are required! :) The
    only thing required is your own effort . . .

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    06 Apr 2005
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
    http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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