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# RE: Earthly Ambitions

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] Earthly Ambitions
- From: "lux xul" <luxxul@...>
- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:30:57 +0000
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`Hello. "Averice" != "Ambition" . It is ambitious to desire to complete the IIH. COnsider that most would not even approach it.`
`To desire reflection of our own existance in the world around us via "admiration", "Affirmation", "accomplishment", etc. is not necessarily based in an EMPTY SHELL of lust and depraved grasping. Perhaps we can see the use of it and sense its value in its sphere and not necessarily be BLINDLY ATTACHED/ENSLAVED to it.`
`To wish to influence material (inner/outer) reality from within, is also the ambition to know oneself. It is not "Money" that "is the root of all evil" (... Evil is not the same as "Sin", btw). It is the LOVE of it. THere is a difference. The difference is within. The tangles become more subtle as you see through the first more crude ones. THe work is never ending.`
`Your desire to know your own limits within the culture as it understands success and power/influence is perhaps your desire to understand yourself with the cultural tools that are most easily available and recognised. (for the interest of babe's?.. is this the success marker?).`
`You probably note how certain members of the population, aside form their rational intellectualized understanding of the meaninglessness of their reactions to your possible "title" or "BIG MONEY", still EMOTIVELY REACT with interest to your ambition and what it MAY represent..people like DOERS. THey are attracted and allow themselves to be influenced by leaders who are action oriented.. its often more "sexy" to them. People want to feel like doers via association with doers. Its easier and often aides them to DO themselves.`
`THat may make it more sexy and interesting to you to accomplish b/c you desire to be 'seen' as that and be envied. bragging rights. It gets attention... makes you feel powerful and makes your horemones move in your blood stream. You feel alive. Its addictive. Blind addiciton may be your fear.`
`Perhaps the REAL key is understanding your relationship with your negative traits and determining what positive trait is trying to be materialized through the confusion that is the negative representation of it.`
`WHat is the "fear personality" of the "true source" of the attribute? If the negative trait was a skin covering a positive trait, what would the negative trait be guarding from harm or trying to usurp? Much like our personality covering our more refined self which must speak through it.THe personality desires to know itself as in control and MUST act this way when its on its own b/c it was designed to be active within this sphere of activity in materialisation. The guardian/servant may become the imprisoning master via its own ignorance and fear of death. Consider your specific traits as the same "cell group".`
`I suppose the question is.. if the negative trait was a guardian, what would it protect as well as imprison if all one could see was the guardian and not that which it guarded?`
`Have you ever tried to personify yourself (in meditiation) AS the traits SEPERATELY and reflect upon your own function? Reflect upon your own relation to the "guard" or what was being guarded?`

    As you probably noted, one of my 'demons' may be "Babble".. ;)

    THank you.
    :T:

>     From: "dato1848" <dato1848@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: [BardonPraxis] Earthly Ambitions
>     Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:41:07 -0000

>     Dear Friends,

>     I am now making the list of my negative traits as suggested by
>     Bardon in his Chapter I of IIH. I have a question particularly about
>     one issues: my "earthly" ambitions. In other words, I am quite a
>     careeristic person. I am determined to succeed in whichever career I
>     choose to pursue after graduating from University. And to be totally
>     honest with myself, the main reasons of this is money. In fact, it's
>     even naughtier: money, power, respect, sense of security and feeling
>     of belonging to society (it is not easy to write these words, but it
>     is so). I was not raised in a Christian family, and have never
>     therefore considered money as bad or something that can hinder you
>     spiritual growth.

>     *Now is it in itself a negative trait?* If it is, then I am prepared
>     to change it. At this point it seems very difficult, but I know that
>     eventually with time and spiritual develpoment I will be able to
>     overcome this obstacle. However, I feel that if I don't fully
>     understand what exactly is wrong about it, overcoming this desire
>     will be harder.

>     I will add that I'm not totally materialistic. I don't believe that
>     money only can bring you happiness, I will not hurt others to earn
>     money and I do not judge people by their socio-economical status.

>     I have always believed that money is neither bad nor good. The uses
>     that people do of it can be. And if the person is determined to live
>     a moral life then he will use the money to help others, and let's
>     don't get realistic, if your motives are pure then there is so much
>     you can do for the good of humanity if you have money. Nevertheless,
>     something tells me that this ambition needs to be written down under
>     the heading of negative traits.

>     *In which ways do you think I could transfer this ambition into a
>     positive trait?* I understand that this what we are supposed to do
>     with our negative sides.

>     I would love to hear your opinions.

>     Thanks,
>     David

>     PS
>     I am not talking about having enough money to be able to buy food
>     and to ensure that you children get a decent education, I am rather
>     talking about BIG MONEY :-)

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