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# Re: Re: Buddhist / Bardon

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Buddhist / Bardon
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:57:39 -0700
- References: <129.4e315cce.2ea6d1e8@...>

    Dear Jason,

    >> I see the distinction here and would like to ask: why do you think
    Derrick
    found his mindfulness disappearing when he practiced Step 1 as opposed
    to the zazen of before? Is it because one has to re-learn without the
    breath? <<

    To begin with, Zazen practice is not about attentively observing the
    surface mind -- it's about attentively ignoring the surface mind -- so
    detached *observation* would be a different skill in regard to Zazen and
    have different results than sitting Zazen.

    Additionally, the first mental exercise doesn't exist in a vacuum of
    practice -- there's also the concurrent work of developing the Soul
    Mirror. As has often been noted, drawing up the positive and negative
    lists of character traits can cause turmoil in the student's psyche
    which often manifests itself as blockages to progress in other areas of
    practice.

    By the way, I see no conflict in practicing the Step One exercises *and*
    sitting Zazen or practicing Vipassana, so long as there is a separation
    between them and a clear understanding of their differences in context,
    method and aim.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    19 Oct 2004
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
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  - Re: Re: Buddhist / Bardon
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