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# Re: TMO and MPE

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- Subject: Re: TMO and MPE
- From: "forestofsymbols" <forestofsymbols@...>
- Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 19:08:32 -0000
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     Rawn and everyone,

    Thanks for the response. But this does lead to a few more
    questions...

    The reason I asked about the Tifereth was John Greer's powerful
    arguments for placing it in the heart area in his "Circles of Power"
    and for cultivating it accordingly. Now I know that the physical
    heart is not the same as the area in the subtle body, whether we are
    discussing mapping the tree of life or chakras. But it does seem that
    it would be quite difficult for one to clearly distinguish the
    physical from the astral without a higher development of the inner
    senses. And Bardon also does specifically say (I checked the online
    version; word searches make things a whole lot easier) that one ought
    NOT cultivate energy in the heart nor the brain, at least not at the
    lower stages of development. So is Greer being reckless by suggesting
    Tifereth be located in the area of the heart, and by encouraging
    beginners to cultivate this area?

    One of my reasons for thinking Tifereth might be in the area of
    the heart was in mapping directly the tree of life onto the chakra
    system, so that the Muladhara chakra relates to Malkhut, Swadisthana
    to Yesod, and so on. Clearly, this is not entirely accurate and needs
    to be rethought. I did note that Bardon places the "depth point" of
    the person in the solar plexus. Perhaps Greer is using a different
    map than Bardon? Or perhaps Tifareth cannot be limited by the
    arbitrary placement of the chakras, and may include, overlap, or vary
    geographically from the chakras.

    mj

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...>
    wrote:
    > Dear 'mj',
    >
    > >> I have been working of late with the TMO exercises and have been
    > finding them to be very useful, suprisingly so. <<
    >
    > Cool! :)
    >
    > >> First, TMO reminds me quite a bit of the Middle Pillar exercise
    > (MPE), <<
    >
    > Yes, they do share some similarities.
    >
    > >> I suppose this is a long, drawn out and complicated way of
    asking:
    > should TMO and MPE be practiced together, and indeed, is it wise or
    > unwise to explore other Hermetic techniques (for instance, the
    > Kabbalistic Cross)? <<
    >
    > They are compatible with each other.
    >
    > >> 1. What is the difference between the I am ("ani") in TMO and
    the I
    > am that I am ("eheyeh") in the MPE? Why the different words to
    establish
    > Kether? <<
    >
    > "AHIH" is a VERY complex word/phrase that means far more than the
    usual
    > English translation implies. It is also a Name of G-d for Kether.
    > "ANI" on the other hand, is a fairly simple declarative statement
    of "I
    > am". With TMO, one is declaring that one IS Kether, one is not
    merely
    > naming it or invoking it. Ultimately, the utterance of the "Ani"
    is a
    > rise of one's own center of conscious awareness to the level of The
    > Unity / Kether -- using AHIH for this would be inappropriate..
    >
    > >> 2. Why does TMO establish the center of Tifereth at the solar
    > plexus, rather than the heart? <<
    >
    > In most human bodies, the heart is placed to the left of center. ;-
    )
    > The solar plexus is the proper positioning for visualizing
    Tiphareth.
    >
    > >> Would it be unwise to focus it on the heart? <<
    >
    > To focus it upon the heart itself, especially to accumulate energy
    > within the organ itself, is unwise. However, if you focus upon the
    > general area of the center of your chest, you'll be just fine.
    >
    > My best to you,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 03 Sept 2003
    > rawnclark@n...
    > rawn@a...
    > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    > http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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