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# Re: A running thought

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] A running thought
- From: "lux xul" <luxxul@...>
- Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:40:53 +0000
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`I would also like to add that if one considers the manifestation of the practce the reflection of its creator,
what would we read from the manifestation of IHH .vs. the manifestation relfection of the chaos-magic ?
WHat would be the child of the creator/manifestor? What would it tell us about the manifestor? ANd more importantly, perhaps, what of the level of mastery in the process? Is mastery truely ONLY about the successful manifestation of the physical intent? I dont think so, personally. Instead, perhaps its about the reality and depth of the manifestation of the true self within that which is manifested. Perhaps the difference between an artful and creative Chef and a micro-wave oven only consuming fast-cook. Both manifest something to consume. I think we would all agree though, there is a distinct difference in that which is manifested (aside from the food, as well). One is certainly more AWARE and the other is more likely less aware of the beauty and grace of the manifestation. One give thanks, the other consumes w/o awareness. (in this example only).`

    Thank you.
    :T:

>     From: "lux xul" <luxxul@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] A running thought
>     Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:00:11 +0000

>     Yes. And, it (IIH) focuses less upon the glorification of the personality
>     through delusions of power to influence without ... without power to
>     influence within... and the maturity to render the difference. It is often
>     forgotten that "steps" may be and "teachers" may be, but the student is
>     ALWAYS teaching themself via experience and the stretching of their comfort
>     zone.

>     Thank you,
>     :T:

> `>From: "Jeremy Jacobs" <darkzen15@...>
> >Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
> >To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [BardonPraxis] A running thought
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:56:02 +0800
> >
> >
> >Dear Friends,
> >Are any of you familiar with Chaos magick? What they say is that everything
> >is permitted, nothing is true, free yourself from dogma, face your fears
> >etc... and especially this, experiment widely and learn from experience and
> >practice.
> >
> >How does the Bardonian Hermetic system help the student to confront their
> >own fears and how does the hermetic system teach the student to learn by
> >experimenting and self-discovery? From what i have dbeen doing, its all
> >just
> >following steps. I'm up to step 3 now and so far i haven't done anything
> >really...like radical. The approach of the hermetic system seems more like
> >a
> >plodding, sylabbus, follow the teacher sort of thing.
> >
> >Comments please! :)
> >
> >Love
> >Jeremy
> >
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