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# Re: Re: Bardon and the Buddha

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Bardon and the Buddha
- From: william cranstoun <tumoessence@...>
- Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:36:32 -0800 (PST)
- In-reply-to: <125.1fb95a0f.2babaf11@...>

    IOX137,

    When I want to relax one of the first things I do is
    tighten the muscles I want to relax, because we in
    the modern world aren't always aware of our muscles
    and bodies "doing" something. So I exagerate the
    doing to then let go and surrender into relaxation,
    and non doing. I view the esoteric path whether it be
    Bardon or Tibetan tantra or whatever, to be
    analogous. Visualization, vital energy exercises etc
    by doing them consciously bring up into awareness what
    we are unconsciously doing and conversely allows us to
    consciouly practice non doing. Otherwise when I might
    think I am doing nothing, really all of the
    subconscious doings go on and on.
    If as the heart sutra suggests form is emptiness and
    emptiness is form, all phenomena including psychic
    phenomena reveal this reality, but how do "I" respond
    to it?
    Enough theory, for me in this post this the praxis
    list
    --- TARMSTRONG11@... wrote:
    > Sokan,
    >
    > If the mind is essentially "nothingness" then the
    > only reason one would
    > attempt a method, is to try to uncondition it and
    > make it aware of this fact.
    > What other reason is there to pursue "initiation"
    > than to dissolve the mind
    > (ego) in to God, Being, that which 'is'?
    >
    > My point is that ANY method will mean a "doing", and
    > that "doing" is just a
    > round about way to allow the mind to LET GO. If you
    > encourage the mind to
    > grow, the ego to feel superior, even to become one
    > with your "ideal" of God,
    > then you will just create a bigger EGO, (mind
    > construction), and you will
    > miss the REAL SELF.
    >
    > I'm only stressing this because I feel it to be an
    > essential part of any
    > "way" whether it be Bardon, Buddah, Jesus etc.
    >
    > The only reason methods and techniques are felt to
    > be needed is because the
    > mind is ignorant of its true self, its "original
    > face". Ultimately no method
    > is needed, surrender is enough, accept with an open
    > heart God, Truth,
    > Existence etc, and you will know. Methods,
    > teachings are needed ONLY to get
    > back to the SOURCE.
    >
    > Eh, well that's what "I" think anyway... :>)
    >
    > Peace and Happiness,
    > IOX137
    >
    >
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    >
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