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# Re: Does Water give form to Fire ? - complement to my question

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- Subject: Re: Does Water give form to Fire ? - complement to my question
- From: "forestofsymbols" <forestofsymbols@...>
- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:31:26 -0000
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    Others may disagee, but it sounds like you might be confusing the
    elements (fire, water, earth, air, and ether) and the levels
    (physical, astral, mental). Further, it seems that you are also
    confining the element "earth" to the physical level alone. It might
    help if rather than thinking of these things in the abstract, you
    find some experiences to tie them to, to make them real for yourself.
    This was my own mistake as I've recently discovered.

    mj

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, Newbieonekenhobby
    <newbieonekenhobby@y...> wrote:
    > Oops. Here are a few sentences I forgot to include.
    >
    > I know that the actual *solidification* ("let it be
    > done") takes place at the Earth Element -
    > electromagnetic level.
    >
    > My question is not about this level: solidification is
    > distinct from shaping IMHO. My question is really
    > about the original "Intention/Design" : does the
    > "shaping" of the raw energy issued by Fire take place
    > at the Water level ?
    >
    > May sound confusing (and confused) to the other
    > students. I apologize ...but I still need to know,
    > because till now I believed that Water was
    > "shrinking", so to speak, something already formed and
    > solidified at another level, but I did not imagine
    > that it was taking a role in the shaping process.
    >
    > Ok. I'll stop worsening my case :-)
    >
    > Many thanks
    > NB
    >
    >
    > --- newbieonekenhobby <newbieonekenhobby@y...>
    > wrote:
    > > In Rawn's comments on IIH, I read in the "Theory
    > > Section":
    > >
    > > <<The magnetic Fluid *gives form* to the Electric
    > > force>> (emphasis
    > > mine).
    > >
    > > Taking this literally, meaning that the creation
    > > deriving from the
    > > Electric force takes actual shape through the
    > > influence of the
    > > magnetic Fluid, is it possible to infer that Water
    > > gives form to
    > > Fire ?
    > >
    > > a) Superficially this looked obvious to me given the
    > > attributes of
    > > the respective Elements. But suddenly I was not sure
    > > this
    > > was "licit".
    > >
    > > b) Since *Water* somewhat looks like an
    > > instantiation of the
    > > *Magnetic* Fluid or its concrete manifestation
    > > (sorry - I don't find
    > > the words), and the equivalent for Fire, the
    > > deduction seems logical
    > > from that angle also
    > > At the same time, since they are not at the same
    > > level, and given
    > > the explicit additional attributes of Water and
    > > Fire, I was not sure
    > > this was authorized.
    > >
    > > What is correct ? Or am I "pedaling besides the
    > > bicycle" :-) ? Or
    > > should I wait till level 8 :-( ?
    > >
    > > Many thanks.
    > > NB
    > >
    > >
    > >
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