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# Re: Digest Number 638

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Digest Number 638
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:22:49 -0800
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    Dear Paulo,

    >> I had more or less the same opinion as you do (that is, hey, even mr
    bardon did it so it cannot be that bad) <<

    I don't believe that John actually used this as a justification. In
    fact, I didn't understand any of what he wrote as a justification or
    excuse for smoking tobacco. :) To my mind, he seemed to merely be
    asking a question about Eucharistic magic.

    >> but Mr. Bardon was not a normal guy and he could probably disperse
    all ill effects of smoking with one single meditation. <<

    Be that as it may or may not be, speculation aside you must remember
    that Bardon lived in the first part of the last century -- before
    commercial cigarettes where filled with chemicals. The detrimental
    effects of smoking *organically grown* tobacco are far, far different
    than the well documented ill effects of smoking *commercial cigarettes*.
    The chemicals used to grow commercial tobacco, the chemicals it is
    treated with in processing, the chemicals that are intentionally added
    to make the cigarette more physically addictive and the chemicals
    gassed-off by the *filter* when heated by hot smoke *are* indeed very,
    very harmful. But Bardon lived and smoked in a time when these toxic
    chemicals were not a part of "smoking". Additionally, according to
    "Memories of Franz Bardon", he smoked a special blend of tobacco and
    other herbs. There are many herbs that help the body counteract the
    detrimental effects of smoking tobacco and my guess would be that one or
    more of those herbs were in his special blend. :)

    Also noted in "Memories" is that Bardon smoked tobacco specifically for
    the stimulating effects of nicotine. He purportedly quit smoking
    periodically to strengthen his will and to assure himself that he was in
    control of the physically and psychologically addictive aspects of
    nicotine and the habit of smoking.

    >> I, on the other hand, cannot. <<

    Good! :) We should never use the example of another's behaviour as a
    "justification" or "excuse" for our own behaviour -- especially when we
    are only guessing at the other person's motivations. The Soul Mirror
    teaches us that we must be the deciders of our own behaviour, based upon
    our own self-knowledge and self-choice.

    >> For me, smoking is not about the physical problems it brings (and it
    does bring) but it is more about self control and being in control,
    opposite of being controlled by it. My major turning point was when I
    decided to stop. The first few days where really bad, but after a week
    or so I could feel the difference. After a month, I thought I was
    behaving very well and I decided to smoke one cigarette. Since then, I
    have been on and off, but every time I start/stop is with
    more consciousness about it and less addiction. For times I feel I
    change the polarity of it, going from absolute anti-smoking fanatic to
    compulsive smoker. Right now I think the real issue is the consciousness
    of the act, and the perception of the loss of self-control when smoking
    (i.e. urge to smoke without being my real will; an addiction without
    being wanted). <<

    The central issue is whether or not you have really decided to quit.
    When you *really* decide to do it, *nothing* will dissuade you, not even
    the weasely inner voice with which you convince yourself it's okay to
    have "just one". :) And of course, as with the transformation of any
    habit, you must create an alternative *positive* habit to replace the
    *negative* habit.

    >> I am not sure what is Rawn's path on smoking, but I'm almost sure he
    will agree that in any smoker's Soul Mirror there will be dozens, if not
    hundreds, of minor reasons for smoking, usually in the negative side.
    (lack of self-confidence, lack of self-control, boredom, etc...) <<

    Well, the reasons for giving up that control to the substance of
    addiction in the first place are usually *major* Soul Mirror issues, not
    minor ones. ;-) But those can (and if one is to pursue initiation,
    they *must*) be addressed and resolved. That is part of the Soul Mirror
    *work* of character transformation.

    In so far as *my* personal "path on smoking" goes, I find that smoking
    filterless, hand rolled (by my hands) organic tobacco is very
    pleasurable and very beneficial on a number of levels. I employ a
    variety of herbs in my life, one of which is tobacco. :) The essential
    oils and more volatile parts of organically grown tobacco, ingested
    through the smoking process, have personally useful effects upon my body
    which I consciously use to my advantage. I successfully counter the
    negative effect upon my lungs with herbal expectorants and the art of
    creative coughing. :) I am not so vain as to care what anyone thinks
    of my stained teeth and I am circumspect with my tobacco scented
    presence and breath when in public. I am very respectful of others when
    I smoke in public and expect others to be equally respectful when they
    visit my smoke filled home. :)

    While I do experience a physical addiction to nicotine (i.e., when I
    stop smoking I experience physical withdrawal), I do not experience an
    emotional addiction, having resolved that aspect of "smoking" many years
    ago. So for *me*, it is not a negative experience. I *enjoy* smoking
    and for *me* the benefits *I* reap from the experience far outweigh any
    physical detriment. :)

    >> Regarding impregnation, I personally think that when you are
    consciently and knowingly inhaling something harmful, it is quite hard
    to impregnate that moment with a positive thing. Even if this happens at
    the sub-conscient level (which is much more powerful than our conscient
    level, I think). <<

    You're partially correct. :) You cannot do so with something you are
    *psychologically addicted to*, because is that case your subconscious
    mind will truly counteract any positive effect.

    However, if you are ingesting something such as a Big Mac for example,
    which you *know* is bad for you, it is still possible (assuming you're
    not addicted to them) to impregnate it with your usual positive
    ideation. :) Or if you're taking a medication that has negative
    "side-effects" that you're aware of, you can successfully impregnate the
    medication with an ideation that you will not be severely affected by
    those side-effects.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    15 Jan 2005
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
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