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# Re: Cannabis and does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?

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- Subject: Re: Cannabis and does BardonPraxis combine with shaman rituals?
- From: "metaphysics0000" <crispinp@...>
- Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 13:46:03 -0000
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    Dear Rawn,
    Thank you for your reply, it's very enlightening. I must confess that
    planetary associations (to do with Quaballah I presume) confuse me -
    but I can now tell people knowledgeably that they are smoking Venus
    and Mercury Marijuana :) It is also interesting to learn that the
    plant is particularely sensitive and intelligent.
    Thanks,
    M

    P.S. Thanks to everyone else for your responses aswell

    --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> wrote:
    > Dear M.,
    >
    > >> Does this mean that at some stage in your development you turn onto a
    > permanent cannabis like trip? <<
    >
    > ;-) Not exactly, no. One distinct difference is the fact that with
    > cannabis (or any other such mind altering substance), you can't turn the
    > heightened perception and mental functioning, on and off at will.
    > Unless, that is, you've developed very strong mental discipline.
    >
    > >> Also, does anybody know how this plant could help Magic studies? - I
    > am thinking about trying it. <<
    >
    > The planetary associations of this herb are Venus and Mercury, which
    > well describes its ability to pleasantly ease open the mind and create a
    > certain harmony between emotion and rational intellect. This can lead
    > to either positive or negative effects. For example, it can inspire
    > your mind or it can put you in a stupor.
    >
    > Which pole it manifests depends upon many factors, foremost of which is
    > the nature of the individual ingesting it. The effects of cannabis upon
    > the human body vary greatly from person to person and from strain to
    > strain. Some strains of cannabis WILL put you in a stupor, no matter
    > what! ;-) And other strains will barely effect your body, while vastly
    > liberating your mind.
    >
    > The living cannabis plant itself is very intelligent and highly
    > sensitive to the "vibe" surrounding it. It has a great affinity for
    > humanity and has been used by human beings for unknown thousands of
    > years, as everything from food, to clothing, to medicine. It's only
    > been over the past several decades that it has been grown under some
    > pretty bizarre conditions and often with all kinds of nasty chemicals
    > involved. All of these things change the herb from its pristine state
    > due to its intelligence and sensitivity. [The primary psychoactive
    > parts of the cannabis flower are housed in a crystalline form, which is
    > ideal for capturing "vibes", so to speak.] So it's important (for
    > magical use) to ingest only organically grown cannabis, preferably grown
    > outdoors with loving care.
    >
    > While cannabis offers many good attributes, the main negative in terms
    > of magical training, is the issue of not being able to turn its effect
    > on and off at will. During the training, it's *vitally* important that
    > you learn how to reach the mental states you need to reach *on your own,
    > by your own will and not become dependant upon cannabis as a crutch to
    > reach those states*.
    >
    > This is especially important during the Step One mental exercises. If
    > you do these while you still have the effects of cannabis in your
    > system, then you will not be observing your *normal* state of mind in
    > the first exercise; will not be gaining control over your *normal* state
    > of mind (which has a few different rules than the mind on cannabis!) in
    > the second exercise; and will not learn how to reach a VOM from a
    > *normal* state of mind in the third exercise.
    >
    > It can also interfere with the development of the Step Two, sensory
    > concentrations. These exercises really must be mastered with the
    > normally functioning mind, otherwise a dependence upon the cannabis can
    > easily develop and you'll find yourself unable to visualize, audiolize,
    > etc., when you're not high.
    >
    > But once you've achieved strong mental discipline, this is not so much
    > of an issue so long as you do learn to master the exercises without the
    > help of the cannabis.
    >
    > I find Cannabis to be a very friendly, pleasant and beneficial herb. It
    > is not however, a replacement for hard work, nor is it a short cut.
    >
    > My best to you,
    > :) Rawn Clark
    > 03 Jul 2003
    > rawnclark@n...
    > rawn@a...
    > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis
    > http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe

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