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# Re: Levitation

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- Subject: Re: Levitation
- From: "ihya1347" <ihya1347@...>
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:49:35 -0000
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     I forgot to thank you for your comments last question around
    Rawn, iv made it a habit to do more research on my own before i go
    looking for help..hopefuly that way ill make sure iv got a decent
    understanding of Bardon's views on the subject. I was wondering
    though, to what extent should practical workings play a part in
    magical development? To be honest, i dont think iv done a single
    ritual or working aimed towards a practical result since starting
    IIH, not counting the exercises in IIH. While you could say the
    results from those exercises are practical, the benefits seem to be
    almost side effects from the gradual rise of initiation. I know im
    not explaining this as best as I could, but it seems like im
    becoming more tuned in to how the universe works, and becoming more
    alert and aware. Also, it seems the more I progress with IIH the
    less I want to be able to do the host of things comonly listed as
    practical magick. Specificly the awe inspiring powers like
    levitation, or telekenisis, or making a fireball. It seems to me
    that the only worthwhile 'powers' to go after or use are the ones
    that would either help someone withought interfering in their karma,
    or if the powers use/mastery would help your spiritual development.
    The downside to this is that, especialy since im only at the tail
    end of the second step, ill be feeling like i could do something,
    but having no idea what to do. Hmm.. *slaps forehead* TMO, forgot
    about TMO since this isn't the TMO forum. And I was just talking
    about how im more mentaly alert, too. I think the source of my
    confusion is that post IIH I was learning magick to be able to
    influence the world, but now im becoming more and more aware of the
    Initiation aspect of IIH and the development of the three bodys. To
    sum this sprawling monster up, I think I should just speak frankly
    on the topic of magick powers. Most people new to magick or seeking
    proof of magick want some hard impossible to explain phenomenon ( of
    course we know that nothing in hermetics can violate the laws..*end
    brown nosing*) and cite the absence of those phenomenon as proof
    that magick is just a bunch of make believe. To me it seems like
    people only gain the capacity to do something like that when theyve
    matured to a point where they would never do it. OK, this is
    changing from a question email to a rant really quickly, but it'll
    be good to get this off my chest, and im sure if anyone comments on
    it it'll provide me with food for thought. So, what im trying to
    say, and failing repeatedly, is why? Why bother trying to do things
    like create fire in the material world? You could say that duh, they
    have obvious practical benefits. However, it seems like everything
    we experience is for a reason and to teach us something, so whos to
    say that solving the problem via magick would rob you of a lesson
    you needed to learn this time around? Or heres a scenario to think
    about, sFrom bigimpact2003@... Sun Nov 23 23:52:14 2003
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    Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Step 2 - "feeling concentration"
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    Hi Newbie,
    =20
    If your having your bath / shower with very cold water everyday a'la step 1=
    , focus on that experience as its a completely immersive cold experience an=
    d very easy to bring back to your conscious awareness. The immersiveness of=
    this cold experience with your entire body should enable you to more easil=
    y single parts out.
    =20
    Mark

    newbieonekenhobby <newbieonekenhobby@...> wrote:
    If I understand the example of "smelling the rose" correctly, and if=20
    I apply it to *cold*, e.g.:=20

    a) I start with holding something cold in my hands, or I go outside.
    b) I determine the kinesthetic components of what I'm feeling=20
    c) I connect to their essential meaning, and then get rid of the=20
    components themselves.
    d) then I actually *run my meditation on the essential meaning of=20
    cold* afterwards.

    Is this correct ?=20
    Is this the same as *feeling the cold*, as Bardon=20
    prescribes ? 'cause he said "here is the object is to call into=20
    being the *feeling* of coldness ...etc." ? I understand using=20
    essential meaning makes sense because the exercise addresses the=20
    mental level and not the sensations of the astral body, but I'm not=20
    entirely sure :-)

    Many thanks.

    -The Newbie who's gonna go out to the cold :-)

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