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# Re: Eight Temples question

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- To: "BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com" <BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com>
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Eight Temples question
- From: Aleksander Dumala <alex@...>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:26:07 +0200
- In-reply-to: <ci6vuj+ou4i@eGroups.com>
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    Dear David,

    While Rawn is having his short holiday I'll try to present my two cents
    :)

    > However, I am confused about
    > instructions involving, for instance, visualizing the casting of a
    > ritual circle, or (in Tiphareth) the brief exploration of the twelve
    > zodiacal signs. There is a description of the ritual circle in the
    > Geburah section, but the description seems specific to that sphere.

    You don't *have to* do that but you can if you want :)

    As to the ritual circle, in Malkuth it is being cast in exactly the same
    way as in Geburah and the start/end point is East, so it's Air Altar.
    Therefore you need to visualise Rawn pointing his sword towards the Air
    Altar, filling it with violet Light of Ether/Akasha and its power. Then
    he creates a clockwise circle (Fire, Eart, Water and back to Air) around
    all participants with this violet etheric Light flowing from the tip of
    the sword.

    > And as for the zodiac signs, what if I don't have any prior knowledge
    > of astrology -- does this mean that some research needs to be done
    > before the meditation?

    You should only remember there are 12 signs :)

    Of course knowing their seals, names and order would help but it's not
    *neccessary* at the beginning. It would be even quite interesting to get
    to know those 12 emanations and *then* find the info about Zodiac and
    learn about the sings comparing your own discoveries with your
    experiences :)

    > Broadly, I find that my ability to visualize steadily isn't very good
    > -- my mind jumps around, gets distracted, does quirky things like
    > viewing a scene from different angles a la movie cameras; I can't
    > remember all the Hebrew at once, etc. My meditations don't go for an
    > hour as Rawn hints at in the book, they're more like half an hour. Is
    > there more value to waiting to do these meditations until my mind is
    > better trained (i.e. past Step One), or are the details and the timing
    > of the meditations less important than the intent?

    Of course the ability to concentrate on the meditation itself is
    required for this to work, but I guess you should not discourage
    yourself when the "camera angle" jumps a bit. With me it was quite the
    same case :) And after some practice I managed to be in more control of
    how I see those things.

    I also had problems with Sephirotic Crystal, with Hebrew names and also
    had some serious problems with visualization. As to the first two -
    reading the "Explanation of the Sephirotic Crystal" article and learning
    Hebrew letters helped much. As to the visualization itself I guess it
    doesn't really matter if you can *visualize* all those things as long as
    you can *perceive* them. Of course with the proper training your skills
    will evolve and it will all become much easier and more obvious. But as
    long as you are able to enter the Temple, the rest does not matter that
    much :)

    Also don't judge such meditations by physical time. Your experiences
    last as long as they need to last :) My first Malkuth meditation also
    lasted about 30 minutes of physical time, but it seemed much longer
    there ;-)

    Blessed be,
    Aleksander

- References:
  - Eight Temples question
    - From: "David Yeh" <ldreamr@...>

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