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# Re: Free will and magic

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- To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Free will and magic
- From: "Simon Proteus" <SimonProteus@...>
- Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:33:30 -0800
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    Greetings Mark,

`This rather ties into questions of free-will vs. predetermination. It seems that one of the problems with issues of this type is our limited perspective as manifest beings. We think in an either/or fashion. Temporal logic simply breaks down when it comes to timeless concepts such as the astral. If we look at it from this perspective, then apparent contradictions fall apart.`

    Warm Regards,
    Simon

>     From: mark towse <bigimpact2003@...>
>     Reply-To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: [BardonPraxis] Free will and magic
>     Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:01:26 +0000 (GMT)

>     Hi All,

> `(note: I think this is relevant here and not on Magi Rawn, if not - junk it, but I'd be grateful for anyones thoughts on the point though! Incidentally, everything went a notch up and everything has turned out fine, thanks for your previous help!)`
> `I have a query regarding free will. Rawn mentioned a while ago that by living in the temporal now is the only way you can maintain free will (after you reach a certain level of integration with the higher self and the all). I have long been under the impression that there is no free will at any point as every action undertaken is a perfect representation of every circumstance that has lead to the present level of consciousness, thus any action / reaction that occurs in the physical is, by definition, the only action that could have taken place; any other response / action / whatever is physically impossible to happen. So the question is, to what extent is there genuine free will, as I am under the distinct impression that the illusion of free will in workers is the main driving force behind life and QED the magics. Also, does the extent of potential free will differ depending on the level of an initate?`
> `I am aware that this arguement can be used as the perfect cop-out for anything, but I think it's also a necessary realisation for ascendence.`
> `Incidentally, on the "Starving Somalian" thing from Jeremy, nobody mentioned that Universal law states that a starving 6 year old in Somalia is meant to be starving in Somalia; Hermetics or no - everything is as it is meant to be.`

>     Communion to all,

>     Mark

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