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# RE: Re: Application of Hermetic skills (Healing)

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- Subject: RE: [BardonPraxis] Re: Application of Hermetic skills (Healing)
- From: "Johan Pretorius" <africure@...>
- Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:13:02 +0200
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    Dear Rawn,

    I have a few thoughts on your reply to antiloop1111.
    I too have taken up Pranic Healing, and will soon be a registered
    Pranic Healer and plan to do it full time.

    First I would like to say that I do not think that Karmic debt is
    a problem for a healer. If I work on a patient I do so with loving-kindness
    and compassion. If the patients Karma is such that he must die, I will not
    be
    able to heal him at any rate. At the most I will be able to ease suffering.
    Karmic debt will then be positive for me.

    Now a few thoughts on the money issue.
    Firstly I want to say that it is sickening the way many people charge high
    fees
    and try to make as much money as they can to heal people. I am not talking
    about these
    healers, and I am not talking about your TMO working group.

    I have spent a long time pondering the subject, and I have now started to
    charge money
    for healing. My fee is much less than other healers, and if the patient
    cannot afford,
    I do it for free. Most of my patients have a hunger for spiritual
    advancement, and I do sometimes
    spend hours with them, and I feel strongly that I cannot receive money for
    that.

    My charging money, and your TMO group not accepting money is less about
    philosophy, and more about practicality. For me to be a great healer I have
    to heal on a regular basis. By that I mean full time. And working on my own
    progress is also a full time affair. I need not say more:)
    As healer I am rendering a service, and am entitled to compensation. I have
    very real costs as I have to travel. And the courses I take to become a
    better healer is not cheap. The law also states that what you sow, so shall
    you reap. If the patient pays for healing, is he not more entitled to
    receive healing?
    As TMO working group is a service you render after hours, and not the work
    you do, It would be inappropriate to make money. If a patient does offer
    money, would it not perhaps be more appropriate to gracefully accept, and
    then donate the money to a worthwhile charity. Then the patient has been
    able to sow, and your group has incurred positive karma, as you have
    channeled the money for good?
    When healing for free one also has to be on guard as not to feel morally and
    spiritually superior to those who do charge.

    I do realize that one could argue over these things, but that would serve no
    good. I do believe that I need to take all that is good about Pranic
    Healing, and use that to better mankind. Pranic Healing and Hermetic
    philosophy is close, and it is better to use the Pranic philosophy, as my
    patients will find it easier to accept as "magic" is not spoken off:)
    I do dislike that some Pranic Healers are even offering Pranic Face-lifts.
    But now I suppose I am sitting on the moral high horse:)

    Best Regards

    Johan

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rawn Clark [mailto:rawnclark@...]
    Sent: 11 April 2004 01:43
    To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Application of Hermetic skills (Healing)

    Dear antiloop1111,

    >> One that I have started exploring recently is called "Pranic
    Healing". Pranic comes from the word "Prana" or "Chi", referring to
    life energy/force. Pranic Healing thus pertains to the ability to
    (positively) manipulate the energy body of another human being such
    that a degree of energetic equilibrium is achieved. <<

    I'm glad to hear you're working with this. :) I imagine you'll be very
    good at it.

    It is interesting to me to compare the technique that the TMO Working
    Group (TMO-WG) has developed, with that of Pranic Healing. When the
    TMO-WG works together, we unite at an Akashic level as, what we've come
    to call, the WGE (Working Group Entity). When we are united in this
    way, we are not acting individually or personally, but rather are
    functioning *as* the WGE. This means that our work can span the *whole*
    of our subject. We encompass their eternal-mental body (their Greater
    Self and thus their HGA), their temporal-mental body (their Individual
    Self), their astral body (their emotional structure) and their physical
    body, with an accumulation of the Adonai Light, which has been tailored
    to them specifically.

    When we create our accumulation of the Adonai Light, we do so *as* the
    WGE. This means that our accumulation exists on all the same levels at
    which the WGE exists (Greater, Individual and personal levels) and is
    thus effective at all those levels of our subject, simultaneously. At
    the level of the energetic body that Pranic Healing deals with, the
    Adonai Light contains *all* of the colors or qualities of Light that
    Pranic Healing wields. It also contains a similar rainbow of Light at
    the astral, mental and Akashic levels of the subject, thus affecting
    those levels of their being in the same manner as Pranic Healing does
    the energetic body.

    We have also fairly recently begun working with a liquid Fluid
    Condenser, using a classic Bardon recipe. :) What we do is, working
    *as* the WGE in special session (i.e., separate from our regular
    schedule of healing sessions), we create a VERY powerful accumulation of
    the Adonai Light, specific to a particular subject, and condense it into
    the small little bottle of Fluid Condenser. Then we mail it to the
    subject with instruction on dosage, etc. We use completely harmless
    ingredients so our subjects take it orally, like a standard tincture.
    We are finding that this *physical* addition to our technique "anchors"
    the Adonai Light in their physical structure, prolongs the effectiveness
    of our weekly sessions with our subjects and improves their healing on
    every level.

    The greatest difference between our TMO-WG work and Pranic Healing (and
    many other approaches, for that matter) is, I think, philosophical. Most
    importantly, when working *as* the WGE, the TMO-WG does not dictate what
    the subject does with the Adonai Light. In other words, the WGE merely
    *provides* the Adonai Light at all the levels of the subject's being,
    and it is up to the wisdom and will of the *subject's own HGA and
    Individual Self* to direct the Light where and how it is truly needed.
    By working in this way, we do not in any way interfere with the
    subject's karma, nor do we create or incur any personal karmic debt for
    the individual members of the TMO-WG. Instead, we *support* and
    *encourage* the subject's own natural healing process -- never do we
    seek to supplant it. We work within a very strict sense of Legality.

    Another difference along these philosophical lines is that the TMO-WG
    only works *with* subjects who are willing to participate in their own
    self-healing. And of course, unlike most healers these days, we work
    for no charge or indebtedness of any kind. In fact, when payments are
    offered we express our appreciation for the kind thought and politely
    decline. :) We believe in giving for the sake of giving and for the
    sake of how much brighter it makes our world, bit by little bit.

    My best to you as always,
    :) Rawn Clark
    10 April 2004
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