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# Re: Fasting

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- Subject: Re: Fasting
- From: "Jason Paris" <jambay53@...>
- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 05:39:29 -0000
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    Hi Rawn & everyone,

    > To understand why Bardon does not recommend fasting for magical
    purposes, we must first examine the goal of fasting as a magical
    practice. <

    I was similarly wondering why Vegetarianism is not recommended by
    Bardon, given that it's such a common tenet of other spiritual paths.

    In the theoretical section of 'IIH' (Merkur edition) -
    under 'Ascetisicm' - Bardon writes: "The idea that eating the meat of
    animals also causes the transference of animal characteristics is
    foolish....".

    Might we infer that to eat an animal and expect to take on its Karma
    and emotional state (at the moment of death) is similarly unfounded?

    I understand that Hare Krishnas avoid meat for this very reason: to
    avoid the Karma & (final) emotional state of the deceased animal.

    I understand that Buddhists avoid meat because the flesh of animals
    is of a "lower vibrational frequency" than that of plants. And that
    if one aspires to refining their own mental processes, avoidance of
    these "lower frequencies" is recommended.

    Without disrespect to either philosophy, I confess that these
    arguments are difficult for me to grasp.

    In the case of Krishna philosophy, surely one is as likely to take on
    the Karma of any *non-animal* (ie, plant) that one consumes?

    Besides, surely the Karmic profile/emotional state of any incarnated
    being (animal, plant, whatever) is not "stored" in the physical body
    anyway, and therefore not transferred during the *eating* of that
    body?

    Similarly, with respect to Buddhist philosophy, surely the ingestion
    of material of a particular vibrational frequency by the *physical*
    body would have little or no bearing upon the refinement of the
    *mental* body?

    Finally, regarding the other popular argument - that's it's cruel to
    contribute to the slaughter of animals by being a meat-eater - while
    compassionate, surely misses the point that it's *just* as cruel to
    kill plants?

    Would a plant not suffer as much as an animal during
    harvest/slaughter?

    Which might leave one wondering: "What *can* I eat with impunity?".
    I would suggest: "Anything you like!".

    Would love to hear others' opinions.

    Anyroad, I'm off to get a Big Mac or two......... ;-) ;-)

    See ye later,

    Jason

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