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# Re: Buddhist / Bardon

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- Subject: Re: Buddhist / Bardon
- From: "Flesmih Natas" <flesmihnatas@...>
- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:00:17 -0000
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    Wow!
    I'm really stunned at the response to this question. All of
    the insight is really appreciated, thank you all so very very
    much!!! Though, I guess I could have described a few things a bit
    better... Zazen is simply a daily meditation, which mine is simply
    that of one-pointedness; I got the word from a book by Shunryu
    Suzuki. I have not yet learned Vipassana, but in late December I
    will be going on a 10-day retreat to learn it :o) About what I said
    about Bardon's steps sounding like stages of meditation: First
    lesson (of Step One) is like when you first practice meditation and
    think, "Wow, look at all the thoughts!!!". The Second lesson (of
    Step One) comes quite naturally when everyday thoughts are more
    sequential in the fact that they don't seem to switch subjects of
    their own accord. Also, mindfullness also comes semi-naturally, but
    it is truly is a 24 hour a day meditation which at times can be very
    difficult. Then, Lesson Three (of Step One) is the point that the
    author Ken McCleod describes the mind as an "ocean without waves";
    the attention has been cultivated to the point where one can blank
    the mind at will. I must say, though, I completely agree with the
    post (forgive my bad memory, I can't remember the author) that said
    the practices are, in a way, contradictory. The mind in Buddhism is
    stilled by relaxed attention and in Hermetics the mind is forced
    into a blank state by the will.
    Once again, I just want to thank everyone who has posted and
    those who will post in the future; it is really amazing when people
    are willing to help others with no thought of reward.

    Namaste,

    Derrick

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