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# Combining practices, question

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- Subject: Combining practices, question
- From: "SeaWinder" <seawinder@...>
- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:04:00 -0000
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    Good afternoon, all;

    I am deep into Step IV of IIH, Lesson 7 of TMO IHVH-ADNI, Lesson Five
    of the Self Healing Archaeous, and I fiddled with Step one of the KTQ,
    baby blue letter A/Note G, Air/Intelligence. And I use the Center of
    Stillness Meditation.

    I know that generally it is ok, once one feels and knows it is stable,
    to stack exercises together. But I am a beginner in these exercises
    and want to know if this stacking method that I've used today has been
    done by anyone else, seems stable and will be likely to produce
    stable, good results or if there are cracks in the logic will will
    probably lead me astray.

    I Meditated on the Center of Stillness Meditation, while still within
    it, I stacked about 3 affirmation positive thoughts with TMO
    IHVH-ADNI, then I breathed in one breath of each element into its
    place in my body in each of the three bodies, physical, astral,
    mental. And then in that space I stepped out of myself in my mental
    body and then in my astral body I stepped out about three times. I
    knew that the astral separation was going on because each time I
    willed to separate with that body, I felt my legs become tingle and
    then become numb, like they were sleeping deeply. I only stood beside
    myself each time. I heard the door open downstairs three times and
    knew that someone had come home, my inlaws. My wife was sitting at the
    computer playing a game while I was meditating. Bobby, our white cat
    interrupted me with jumping up on my legs and digging his head into
    the palm of my hand to be petted. Grins.

    I layed my astral body down slowly and then my astral and then
    established recontact and "fit" with my physical body within about 15
    seconds and it was pretty smooth. My wife said I was asleep. Mouth
    open and snoring. Funny I didn't notice any snoring at all. Though of
    course I received the deep benefit and joy of the deep body relaxation
    of the physical body in this state. When I sleep for an hour or so in
    the afternoon I wake up droggy headed and it takes about an hour, hour
    and 1/2 to come back from the dregs to clear reality, but in this
    state I was awake and pert and alert and wide awake. So by that I know
    that it was meditating and not sleep. Plus so much went on in that
    mere 1 1/2 hour of meditation. Good, good stuff.

    The only thing I noticed about an hour later, out front on the steps
    having a cigarette, is that I had forgotten to breath back "out" the
    one breath of each element into the three bodies. Which I then did
    immediately and relaxedly. There were no overabundance of element
    feelings from this. In a way it is a high to absorb even one extra
    breath of each element in each of the three bodies. I have to over
    come that sense of addiction and just enjoy the usage of the extra
    functionality.

    I "did" remember to and accomplished re"claiming" my senses that were
    placed by me in the spheres around myself in the CSM meditation step,
    after the cat awoke me.

    My point of all of this is that the separation from the physical body
    of the astral/mental body was so simple and effortless while within
    CSM meditation than when I do it just as an exercise in itself. I
    guess one must only differentiate between being in a meditative
    productive state of being and not just a trance where one may not
    recall what is occurring.???

    By the way, I "will" not be attempting the KTQ Caballistic attempts at
    using the letters until I am advanced to the degree required to
    navigate that realm easily. Yes, I did wake up the next morning after
    meditating in the three bodies and the three voice (physical, mental,
    astral) on the letter A in note G and in the easily atainable baby
    blue (light blue) color, and I had a long before awakening state where
    I was "organizing" easily three level sub groups of "something" ( I do
    not know what) and it interested me because being sequential and
    orderly is not my forte', and throughout the day I found it easy to
    sequentially do things, which stood out to me also. Yes, I had those
    results from one mere practice.

    BUT, I also felt disorientated and unbalanced in the slightest bit,
    perhaps because I knew that this was only one charge of one letter and
    that I needed all of the letters sequentially to receive the entire
    balanced package of stretching to my next level. AND I know that I am
    just beginning in stretching myself with the elements, so any results
    would be minimum compared to the full degree charge I would receive
    when fully stretched to handle it all.

    So, I will now progress on the practices I am absorbing and continue
    on. It is a good thing for some at times to actually put our hand on
    the hot burner, even though we've been told. Grins. For me anyway, it
    is good to stretch myself beyond my bounds and easily retreat back to
    safety, knowing some of the territory ahead which may be helpful to my
    walk on my path. For instance, by this I know that I am going to begin
    painting in predominately light blues, while listening to classical
    music in the key of G and thinking on "mindful, intelligent" thoughts,
    and the same with each other letter and tone/note during this next
    year, to "familiarize" myself with the college level prospectus that
    is to come with KTQ. In that way I will have done some of the
    memorizing and preliminary work in a simple way which is enjoyable and
    easy for me. Shrugs. :)

    Any thoughts, appreaicate.
    As always I Wish You Well,
    Chuck

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