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# Re: Re: mind chatter : what plane ?

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- Subject: Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: mind chatter : what plane ?
- From: "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@...>
- Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:32:06 -0800
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    Dear MJ,

    >> Some might say that "mind chatter" creates an obstacle both to
    external observation (by adding things to impressions) and internal
    action (by blocking will), that it diffuses and wastes energy, that it
    is a sign of a lack of inner unity and control. Mind chatter may
    increase negative emotions, if it is critical and judging, it may delude
    consciousness if it constantly self-justifies, explains away, or
    otherwise hides the truth. Mind chatter helps to obscure the real, by
    allowing some one to judge others by a standard other than they judge
    themselves. Mind chatter can lead to one identifying with one's thoughts
    and mental states instead of controlling them. I think a better
    statement would be that mind chatter may or may not be a shortcoming, or
    symptomatic of a shortcoming, but I do think it is dangerous to rule it
    out all together. <<

    What you are describing are the ways in which the individual *relates
    to* mind chatter. In and of itself, mind chatter is a simple fact of
    nature -- a mechanism of the brain bound consciousness. Once the
    individual turns their attention away from the surface chatter of the
    mind, it decreases.

    The surface chatter reflects the inner state of the individual and it's
    the inner state that must be transformed, along with the individual's
    relationship to the surface chatter. But the surface chatter itself is
    not to "blame", so to speak.

    Certainly, *how one relates to their surface chatter* is an issue
    relevant to the Soul Mirror, but mind chatter itself is not since it is
    not an aspect of one's character.

    My best to you,
    :) Rawn Clark
    28 Oct 2003
    rawnclark@...
    rawn@...
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